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Hi all,

As far as I am aware the following two snakes have all the characteristics of true hypos. One is a true red hypo missing all the yellow pigment and all the black muted. The other is a true yellow, missing all the red pigment and with the black muted. both have normal coloured eyes and both come from lines that I have had for twenty odd years and have not had any albino influence. Hope you like them.What are your thoughts?

All the best,
Roger.

Hypo Red

Hypo yellow

Both

Very nice, I really enjoy the yellow look!
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IMO -> You should not call them hypos if it's not proven to be a consistent and inheritable gene.

Otherwise it's hypo-ish, hypo-like.....etc
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So, what would be the "TRUE" definition of a "HYPO"? I saw that Cutting edge has what they call a "GHOST", but I think it was made with a "Tpositive" of some kind... This is a good topic by the way!!

P.s. how the heck do you put a plus sign in the message? LOL!!!

If you are ok with creating confusion you can call any animal with a reduction of black hypomelanistic.

Industry standard is that you apply these names to genetically inheritable (PROVEN recessive, co-dom/dominant) traits. Anything other than this i

I don't know why that posted.

Another disadvantage to this format for a forum, no editing capability for the poster. Also no thread bump for new post's. Cmon' Jeff B when are we going to see some vbulletin action?
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If you are ok with creating confusion you can call any animal with a reduction of black hypomelanistic.

Industry standard is that you apply these names to genetically inheritable (PROVEN recessive, co-dom/dominant) traits. Anything other than this is likely a line trait. If this is the case it should be considered a line "ie Joe Blows Line" Hognose, known for producing red, hypo like animals.

I think a great example of this is the Extreme Red animals. They are not cut and dry recessive or co- dominant (or dominant for that matter) therefore they are considered a line bred trait.

I'm not the morph police, but I've seen the confusion the improper labeling of Leopard Geckos, Boas, and Ball Pythons, and Corn Snakes morph madness.

Everyone is so hung up on being the first to produce and name things that they’ve gotten away from the Standard’s.

My $0.02 :O)

On this forum you cannot type the plus sign, have to spell it out.

You posted beautiful animals, regardless of what they are!
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First I would like to say that the animals posted in this thread are beautiful and very unique... To me, they look like the definition of a true hypo

Secondly, I agree with Chris in many of his points...

With that being said, I think that the "hypos" that are on the market at this time should have never been labled as hypos... It is a T pos albino... This is where the confusion is in my opinion and will cause more confusion when an actual hypo is proven out...

We also need to keep in mind that most of the morphs in reptiles are not labled correctly as far as definition goes... Even the way genetics are passed down is not always correct by proper definition...

For example, by true definition, co-dominant genetics do not really work they we in the reptile hobby says it does... When true co-dominant genes are at play there is no super form...

In my opinion from what I have read, what we are calling co-dominant is actually a form of recessive genetics where the het is visual...

For example, by true definition, co-dominant genetics do not really work the way we, in the reptile hobby, say they do... When true co-dominant genes are at play there is no super form...

Gregg, you are correct.

I want an edit feature :O)
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