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Total count 18 babies, no slugs. This is the first time that she has been bred and looks in great shape.

Here are some pictures of the parents......

Sire

Dam

and some of the neonates......

Thanks for looking!

Orlando
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Dr. Orlando Diaz
LEGACY REPTILES
www.legacyreptiles.com

Congrats Diaz men! Those are real nice but you must be getting confused having so many boas now! I saw on the RI forum (I do not know how to post there) that the dam "Hot Chocolate" is a Suriname that you have had since 2003. I sold her in Oct. 2005 to Cory Browning along with a sibling and two dozen other boas. She came from a Guyana litter in 2004. Below is a link to a photo of her(first) and her sibling(second). They were my favorite two of the litter and I can see that you must have got the sibling as well as he is shown in your website under "Guyanas". I am not sure how many hands they passed thru before they got to you but that is even more miraculous that you successfully bred her. You must be taking good care of them.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL71/10882764/22841093/380525529.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL71/10882764/22841093/380525509.jpg

If the photos do notshow up try looking here

http://www.picturetrail.com/peakfarmer

Mike, this isn't the first time that an animal that was a BEAUTIFUL Guyana was renamed a Suriname after it left your collection. That's such a disappointment

So sorry this happened to two great guys like Orlando and Joel. They definitely did not deserve to be the victims of such dishonesty.

These are still beautiful babies, regardless of their label.

Jb

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What's written above is purely my opinion. In fact, MOST of what you read on the internet is someone's opinion. Don't take it too seriously

Jonathan Brady
DeviantConstrictors.com
Deviant Constrictors picturetrail

Congrats Diaz men! Those are real nice but you must be getting confused having so many boas now! I saw on the RI forum (I do not know how to post there) that the dam "Hot Chocolate" is a Suriname that you have had since 2003. I sold her in Oct. 2005 to Cory Browning along with a sibling and two dozen other boas. She came from a Guyana litter in 2004. Below is a link to a photo of her(first) and her sibling(second). They were my favorite two of the litter and I can see that you must have got the sibling as well as he is shown in your website under "Guyanas". I am not sure how many hands they passed thru before they got to you but that is even more miraculous that you successfully bred her. You must be taking good care of them.

Well Mike,
You are correct on one thing....It was a typo on my part as far as the year. It should be the male (Futo Blood) that is from 2003 and not the female.
As I read your email I was a little upset to find out the origin of this female. I take this hobby seriously and to find out that the lineage of the female to be different than what I was told makes me a little impatient and angry.

I didn't know much about this person reputation before I got her (06) but her lineage was from Suriname from animals that you produce while the other snake (male) was a Guyanese BCC from animals that you produce as well. I don't want to mention any name but the person who sold them to me lives in Tennessee. This person said that the animals originally came from you so hearing Cory Browning to me is new to the equation. I hate crossing animals from different boundaries, origin, lineage, etc even though they are considered BCC shields but now that the truth comes to public I have to make sure that everyone knows about it. Again, thanks for the clarification Mike and this serves me as a lesson to know that I considered this person low in character and integrity. This hobby is fun but sometimes can be frustrating.

Regards,
Orlando
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Dr. Orlando Diaz
LEGACY REPTILES
www.legacyreptiles.com

Orlando,

Hot Chocolate and her brother were posted for sale on Kingsnake a few years back by Don Church as Guyanans. I believe he is from Maryland. The guy you have made reference to posted pics of them on this forum as Guyanans. Name changing is my biggest pet peeve in this hobby. Unfortunately, I've seen a lot of it over the last six years. Regardless, the litter is fantastic!

Adam

Name changing is my biggest pet peeve in this hobby......

Agree. Shame on those that believe the contrary.

I consider this a state of ignominy from one person.

Regards,
Orlando
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Dr. Orlando Diaz
LEGACY REPTILES
www.legacyreptiles.com

DOnt sweat it man....... those boas are amazing..... I think it wouldve been more tactful them to tell you about this privately though.....

Anyway.. I would be happy to have one in my collection... they are some of this seasons best for sure.... and what's a political border?? you know they arent the Esq locale...

Noone knows how accurate any of this locale data is... people have screwed it up so much here in the states... it's not your fault...
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Marc Duhon
Lafayette, Louisiana
SURINAMBOAS.COM
kaiyudsai@SURINAMBOAS.COM

Doesnt matter to me... I still want one!!
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Richard Ceniceros

... that have accomplished? Do you think Orlando would have then had the opportunity to perpetuate this misinformation without anyone else knowing about it and then have done so?
I am tired of all the misinformation I have been finding out about the animals I have had or have produced in terms of lineage, age, who and when they bought them from, how much they paid for them and using my pictures as if they took them etc. In some cases these have been deliberate lies in an effort to resell at higher cost. I could care less if they make money off them, heck, I give a lot of snakes away for free, but when my name is associated with this misinformation, especially if I feel it was intentional, I will make it known publicly so that everyone who has interest has the opportunity to find out. In this case, I felt someone might have intentionally misled Orlando. Now reading Orlando’s response uncovers more misinformation. He was told that I produced “Hot Chocolate” and the other Guyana he got which is also not true.

it was kind of tacky... I know Orlando is the kind of guy that would've corrected this had he been informed... but to do this on the guy's litter announcement.... just shows no class....
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Marc Duhon
Lafayette, Louisiana
SURINAMBOAS.COM
kaiyudsai@SURINAMBOAS.COM

I think you guys will be better off for having gone through this experience.

Also, I noticed on another forum that this situation doesn't seem to be stopping the demand for those BEAUTIFUL boas! I don't think you'll have a hard time selling them

Congrats again. They truly are SPECTACULAR!!!

jb
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What's written above is purely my opinion. In fact, MOST of what you read on the internet is someone's opinion. Don't take it too seriously

Jonathan Brady
DeviantConstrictors.com
Deviant Constrictors picturetrail

Oh wow that's a nice litter of Surinames. Those saddles look like puzzle pieces. Mom is GORGEOUS! Congrats!
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Cheers,
Jessica Gibbs
Ball Pythons; Corn Snakes; Green Tree Python; Jungle Carpet Python; Bci; Bcl; Bco
www.supercoilconstrictors.com
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Congrats again guys... Those are awesome, lovin the PEAKS!!
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Richard Ceniceros

As long as you know they're BCC shields and post them as such, not a big deal, in my mind, oustanding litter, love those peaks, Congrats!!!!

Zack
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Zack Greens Reptiles

There's definitely some lookers in that group!!!Congrats!!!
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Al Brown/Brown's Boas
www.BrownsBoas.biz

These babies have some killer widow peaks. What line are the parents from? I can really feel your gladness as my suri gave a very similar litter (16 live, no slug or still) a few days ago. Congrats on these big guys and gals!!!

Best wishes,
Adam
Boa constrictor.hu