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My first clutch ever has finally pipped!

Shiari Jul 29, 2010 02:58 AM

Well... half-pipped. :P 5 babies are out currently, and 3 more are mere noses, which leaves 8 eggs yet to decide to become snakes.

This is Torandre, momma snake. She's a ghost.

This is Liam, daddy snake. He's an anery.

Both critters are around 2 1/2 years in those.... And this was them at about 1 1/2 years. And why I bred them together. Liam is on the left, Tor on the right.

4 of the 5 babies out are very typical aneries, but cute little buggers.

I call this one "spot"... but the markings look like the ghosts from pacman. >_>

But then this little creature popped out. This one will most likely be my keeper. While still "just" an anery, it's definitely much lighter than its siblings. Here's hoping that it will be like Liam!

The other three noses are all anery as well. I'm beginning to believe that these two share no hets at all. Bit odd, but I'm perfectly happy with anery babies!

Replies (7)

SlytherLyn Jul 29, 2010 06:06 AM

How exciting! What cute little babies!!! I see you incubated on moss, I've seen lots of moss incubation pics on here, I used pearlite but if moss is better maybe I'll try that next year. Your eggs look great and babies look healthy. Is it hard to keep the moss moist enough?
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0.1 66% ph Caramel Albino (Rosalie)
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Shiari Jul 29, 2010 11:36 AM

The moss I used is zoo-med brand sphagnum moss meant for frogs. I figured that this would be the safest moss. No pesticides, no fertilizers, nothing that could damage delicate amphibians.

I had very little problem keeping the moss moist enough. I soaked it first so it was completely waterlogged, and then squeezed it by hand until it stopped dripping. After that, every other time I opened the incubator, I misted the moss to the sides of my eggs, which were all in a clump. The only problem I had was that the moss directly underneath the clutch did dry out completely and I didn't notice it until two weeks before hatch, but no damage done. I gently removed the egg clump, repeated my initial stage of set up for the moss, put them back and voila!

Next year I hope to be able to separate the clutch so that the drying out will be easier. If I can't, I'll just be sure to check underneath them every other week.

draybar Jul 29, 2010 05:25 PM

>>The moss I used is zoo-med brand sphagnum moss meant for frogs. I figured that this would be the safest moss. No pesticides, no fertilizers, nothing that could damage delicate amphibians.
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>>I had very little problem keeping the moss moist enough. I soaked it first so it was completely waterlogged, and then squeezed it by hand until it stopped dripping. After that, every other time I opened the incubator, I misted the moss to the sides of my eggs, which were all in a clump. The only problem I had was that the moss directly underneath the clutch did dry out completely and I didn't notice it until two weeks before hatch, but no damage done. I gently removed the egg clump, repeated my initial stage of set up for the moss, put them back and voila!
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Next year I hope to be able to separate the clutch so that the drying out will be easier. If I can't, I'll just be sure to check underneath them every other week.

don't worry about the moss drying out..some..until you start to see the eggs dimple..I've been experimenting over the last few years and I have found that the drier the better. Last season and the season before I had 97% hatch rates keeping the moss as dry as possible. So far this season I have had three small clutches hatch...total of 23 eggs all hatched. so at this moment I am at 100% but I'm a little worried about two of the remaining 73 eggs..backed off on my numbers a little this season.
I know one person in a short three season experiment would be far from scientific evidence but as far as hatching on moss it's working for me...the previous several years my hatch rate was running around an 87% average. Seems like a fairly significant change to me.
some nice looking little anerys. that last one has some nice contrast. So far I'm with you on that one being a keeper.
You can sometimes be surprised by anery and ghost hatchlings...sometimes ghosts can look almost identical to anerys in the same clutch and then after a shed or two you start to see the difference.....some can be pretty obvious some can be more subtle.
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Shiari Jul 29, 2010 06:20 PM

The moss underneath was absolutely *bone* dry, and the eggs there were dimpling at day 50... and I was incubating between 78.5 and 82 degrees, so waaaaaay too early for the pre-hatch dimpling. Especially as they started pipping on day 70.

draybar Jul 29, 2010 08:41 PM

>>The moss underneath was absolutely *bone* dry, and the eggs there were dimpling at day 50... and I was incubating between 78.5 and 82 degrees, so waaaaaay too early for the pre-hatch dimpling. Especially as they started pipping on day 70.

yep too dry if they were dimpling at day 50
any more made it out yet?
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Corn snakes and rat snakes...No one can have just one.
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Shiari Jul 29, 2010 10:37 PM

1 more had exited, the last time I looked. Hoping to get a couple more out overnight. So far all anery noses still. One hatchling has a head poking from the egg that is positively enormous compared to the others. Hope it exits soon!

Shiari Jul 30, 2010 04:13 PM

And a snow nose! ... but I'm more excited about the anery zigzag. It's also a "lighter than the others" but not as light as the first one I posted.... so I'm highly conflicted!

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