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A concerned citizen sent this to me. I have no reason to doubt the veracity of these statistics.
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Negative reports being printed in the news media here are the statistics they fail to report.

ARIZONA FBI STATS ... WHY THEY NEED THE NEW LAW
The following information is compiled from Federal Bureau of Investigation and Department of Homeland Security reports: The numbers don't lie.

* 83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.

* 86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.

* 75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles , Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.

* 24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals

* 40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals

* 48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals

* 29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and Federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually

* 53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.

* 50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens

* 71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or "transport coyotes".

* 47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.

* 63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens

* 66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66% 98% are illegal aliens.

* 380,000 plus "anchor babies" were born in the US to illegal alien parents in just one year, making 380,000 babies automatically US citizens (which is UN-Constitutional; illegal).

* 97.2% of all costs incurred from those illegal births were paid by the American taxpayers. That is almost ALL of them !

And remember YOU are supporting ALL of these illegals no matter where they are now. Every time another illegal runs the border breaking our laws, your pocket just gets lighter and robbed more.
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jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

Hello again,
Here are some more statistics worth thinking about...
what percent hired for construction is illegal?
what percent hired for housekeeping, hotels, dishwashing, and table bussing is illegal? Nannies? Domestic help? Gardeners?
what percent of factory workers, food production, chicken plucking/gutting, slaughterhouse work, butchery, and janitorial are all illegal hires? Especially in border states?
Now consider agriculture. Take a drive through the san juaquin and salinas valleys in ca. that produce a large percentage of the WORLD'S food and consider the massive army of countless thousands needed to plant, harvest, and maintain those crops. Yes, the majority of those farmworkers are illegal.
So, understanding that situation and the nature of supply and demand in the business world, what are the SOLUTIONS?!

If government LE can confiscate the assets of drug dealers and other criminals as part of their prosecution, I would vote for confiscating the land and businesses as part of the prosecution of everyone who hires illegals.

Government is in it over their heads. They're not going to do anything like that. They won't crap in their own bed.

Government is complicit. Government facilitates the underground economy. The banks...How much money do you think the Federal Government assists the private sector in the transfer of ill gotten gains to Mexico? They are an active participant in the laundering of money!!!

Money sent to Mexico earned by Mexican Nationals illegally and legally is the second largest component to the Mexican Economy/GNP.
Why doesn't Uncle Sam charge a tariff on all that money sent abroad? Who knows? Beats me. Free trade/NAFTA, I guess.

jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

It quite simple, there is a need in our economy for under paided workers. if we have to pay minimum wage for the jobs that the estimated 10.8 million are doing now that is a huge hit to our economy and to inflation, secondly if you are concerned with the criminal threat posed by Mexico, that will be nothing compared to what will happen to that country when the nationals are no longer sending dollars. That money, which they have earned, keeps Mexico from becoming a real threat.

I agree. The whole system is completely corrupt. It's a sham. We have a Third World Black Market Illegitimate Economy.
Total hypocrisy by the Politicians.
Even people chosen for Cabinet positions could not pass the smell test because they illegally employed foreign workers.
If I were in the Mexicans' position, your damned right I'd be here.
We're not letting them take our country. We're not giving our country away. We're paying them to take it!
Our economy if a fraudulent house of cards, as proven by the current economic state of affairs. Our socio-economic institutions become more and more like Mexico's, instead of vice versa, our nation proud traditions go by the wayside. Did you watch PRESUMED GUILTY? Can't you see the direction we're moving. Our reptile trade is already there.
Governments on the Federal, State, and Local level are all complicit in the illegal money laundering that goes on.
What about all the too big to fail banks we bailed out that made shady loans and practice their game of usury on the new arrivals?
Why should I have to pay a bank a fee in order to cash a check written on that bank? Because the Mexican Nationals don't bat an eye. They just pay without question. It's usury plain and simple. It is not a currency change. It is a financial instrument that says that bank is obliged to pay the bearer that amount. The bank is required to perform it's fiduciary responsibility. Charge the writer of the check. Don't charge the bearer of the promise to pay.
And on and on and on...
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

My family is from Mexico, we didn't come to America, America came to us. One of our ancestors was acting Governor of Texas before it was a part of the united states and still belonge to Mexico, he helped the rebelion, and his wife successfully pleaded with Santa Anna for the lives of the women and children at the Alamo, but because he was Mexican his property was taken from him when Texas was Annexed to the U.S. Many Mexican families played crucial roles in the creation of this country, and have been here for longer then the white people who insist they don't belong. Many of them work for less then minimum wage on lands that were illegal taken from their families. On a whole Mexico, and Mexican workers have given a lot more to this country then they recieve, which on a whole is far less then any of us are willing to work for. I hope you get your wish and get to see the state of this nation without their efforts.

I live near San Antonio. Before that Austin. Before that Houston. I've spent time in Mexico and I've worked side by side with Mexicans, along with many other Nationals, in many other parts of the World.
I'm pretty well up on how the Mexicans fought side by side with the Texians for independence. They did get seriously screwed. Same thing happened in California. Right now I live amongst a bunch of Canary Islanders that have been here since the Spanish Land Grants.
My issue is with our hypocritical and corrupt political system. Most of the new arrivals are indigenous Mesoamerican Indians from far south Mexico and Central America. They had nothing to do with the settlement of Texas.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

Now this discussion is getting interesting, lol.
Right or wrong, the reality is that the foundation of many profitable industries, esp. agriculture are built on cheap, or in the case of antibellum slavery, free labor. In california, the work was once done by very poor whites fleeing the dustbowl in the midwest. People called them oakies and hated them almost as much as illegals are hated today. Well, the "oakies" are history and and everyone knows who fills that void today.

Most established Americans do not raise their kids to aim for careers in dishwashing or grape picking.My point is, in our system, there always seems to be a need for some huge, unfortunate group to meet our labor needs.

"In california, the work was once done by very poor whites fleeing the dustbowl in the midwest. People called them oakies and hated them almost as much as illegals are hated today. Well, the "oakies" are history and and everyone knows who fills that void today."

Only difference is: The Oakies were U.S. citizens. The Oakies weren't in violation of the law just by being here. The Oakies spoke and communicated in English, not a foreign language. The Oakies didn't rely on an ever burgeoning NGO and Governmental welfare apparatus to subsidize their standard living. The Oakies weren't anywhere near 30% of the prison population. The Oakies didn't rely on Governmental and Institutional assistance in laundering illegally gotten moneys to foreign countries. I'm sure I've missed a few things, but I hope you get the idea.

"Most established Americans do not raise their kids to aim for careers in dishwashing or grape picking.My point is, in our system, there always seems to be a need for some huge, unfortunate group to meet our labor needs."

So, are you saying the need for cheap unskilled workers here in America justifies a total disregard for the law. Isn't that hypocrisy? A Guest Worker Program is not feasible? Shouldn't the path to citizenship be an equitable, unbiased and transparent process?

jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

I'm not justifying anything. I'm just expressing my opinions based on what I have seen, read, and believe to be true.

I don't support illegal immigration.

I agree that a guest worker program, especially for agriculture jobs, is a great idea. It should include a path to citizenship over a period of five years for those who follow laws and prove their merit as potential US citizens.

I wonder, though, why so many outspoken "anti-illegal" groups oppose guest worker programs and instead insist on rounding all of them up and shipping them back.
Round up 10 million illegal immigrants and move them out? That's, like, the population of New York City. We couldn't move half a million out of New Orleans after Katrina, but we can somehow ship 10 million to other countries?