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Striping in Mex Mex....

Jlassiter Aug 04, 2010 08:45 PM

I would be crazy not to try this project......
I wonder if there is a fully striped Mex Mex on the horizon????

What are your opinions?





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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

Replies (11)

DMong Aug 04, 2010 09:03 PM

Very nice animals John!

Yeah, I think a fully striped mex-mex will take some doing though....and for any predictability (recessive trait) probably much harder still, but give it the "ye ol' college try" anyway..LOL!

Having some set goals are what it is all about after all!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Jlassiter Aug 04, 2010 09:11 PM

>>Very nice animals John!
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>>Yeah, I think a fully striped mex-mex will take some doing though....and for any predictability (recessive trait) probably much harder still, but give it the "ye ol' college try" anyway..LOL!
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>> Having some set goals are what it is all about after all!
>>

Thanks Doug,
It is nice to be excited about my collection and projects again.....In the years past I was rather jaded with the same ole same ole......

The coolest thing concerning these "partially striped" mex mex is their genetics......
If you look closely there are three (1.2) mex mex in the pictures....
The first one is a female that is from a Black phase X Granite Phase.......Produced by Ryan Hoyer......
The second one is a female that is from the Hypoerythristic line.....produced by Shannon and Karl....
The third and fourth pics are of the sibling male to the female pictured above it.....

So.....These have the granite gene, the black gene, the hypoerythristic gene and the striping going on........

It's going to be awesome to see what all these will create over the next decade or so.......It surely is going to take some dedication and refining over many generations.......Sounds fun though.......

Stay tuned.....lol
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

DMong Aug 04, 2010 10:11 PM

For sure man!, In the future, you will be glad you thought about some of this stuff earlier, rather than later.

Those genetics have some great possibilities.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

KevinM Aug 04, 2010 10:47 PM

Hey John, very interesting. I know there were some striped alterna project in the past, not sure where they are today. However, the striping appeared to be more elongation of the nuchal blotch in some animals. The split striping your animal exhibits appears to be the norm for a genetic or inheritable pattern. Below is a pic of a female alterna I had in my collection about 10 years ago that was exhibiting the solid nuchal blotch.

DMong Aug 04, 2010 11:18 PM

That's a pretty sweet alterna there Kevin!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Jlassiter Aug 05, 2010 12:14 AM

>>Hey John, very interesting. I know there were some striped alterna project in the past, not sure where they are today. However, the striping appeared to be more elongation of the nuchal blotch in some animals. The split striping your animal exhibits appears to be the norm for a genetic or inheritable pattern. Below is a pic of a female alterna I had in my collection about 10 years ago that was exhibiting the solid nuchal blotch.

Kevin...I know Jason at Envy was working with some of those long nuchal blotched alterna.....I think they are awesome myself.....

As for Mex Mex,
An open nuchal window or small nuchal stripe is very common in wild collected / photographed specimens......I just think it can be elaborated on......We'll see.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

CrimsonKing Aug 05, 2010 04:30 AM

John I "produced" one or two with very long stripes about 10 yrs. ago. I didn't like 'em much and sold them off at a show. Looking back, I probably could have continued with it and "perfected" it a bit. Unless they're perfect stripes and not all zig-zag I just don't seem to care for them. The mex mex can have some clear clean striping though. You'll see.
:Mark
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Jlassiter Aug 05, 2010 07:17 AM

>>John I "produced" one or two with very long stripes about 10 yrs. ago. I didn't like 'em much and sold them off at a show. Looking back, I probably could have continued with it and "perfected" it a bit. Unless they're perfect stripes and not all zig-zag I just don't seem to care for them. The mex mex can have some clear clean striping though. You'll see.

Glad you chimed in Mark as I knew you had some partially striped mex mex some years back......I think it was more than 10 years ago though.....lol
I liked them and would like them again today.....

BTW.....There has been a totally striped Mex Mex, but it looked different from what I invision a very elongated nuchal stripe to look like.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

CrimsonKing Aug 05, 2010 12:35 PM

John I still have some snakes I never photo.

:Mark
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mrkent Aug 05, 2010 08:38 AM

That made me think of the Tessera corn snake. Here is a link to South Mountain Reptiles.
Image

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Kent

0.1 Hypomelanistic striped cornsnake
1.2 Gray-banded kingsnakes, blairs phase
1.1 Oregon rubber boas

Jlassiter Aug 05, 2010 12:56 PM

>>That made me think of the Tessera corn snake. Here is a link to South Mountain Reptiles.
>>Image

Yes Kent....that thought has crossed my mind.....I wish I would be able to produce a striped mex mex like the Tessera corn.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

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