I've never once said mix-ups do not happen. I've never once said I completely disagree with you. Nevertheless, you have no facts. Just because you know of something, does not make it a fact to anyone else. Just because you are stir crazed and think so many good names are doing wrong by pure locality, does not make it so. I AM NOT SAYING IT DOESN'T HAPPEN!!! So get off it already. As I've said time and time again, yet you seem too thick to get it, is that I do not draw my line in the same place you do. I am OK with taking certain names and certain animals at face value. And ultimately, that is all anyone is EVER DOING! Who says you can trace it back to wild? You can't! There are NO FACTS! Anyone can make anything up, so ultimately, you are still left with face value.
If the said person being taken at face value has been less than forthcoming attentionally or on accident, how do you continue to take them at face value? My thick head is used to protect my brain, the same brain that allows for simple things such as decision making.
Mistake Sale = None Creditable, pretty easy right let me slow it down for you a bit ok ready?
1 1=2
If I witness something occur, or read some ones confession or apology for being dishonest or making it a mistake, it is not me telling you its fact it makes it fact by admission of that person, if I witness the sale of a snake that I was led to believe came from one locality but that same snake was sold to someone else as a different locality it factually was miss represented to myself or the other person. That is fact, now on the other hand if the same scenario occurred and I let it go that is denial right?????????? or am I missing something. Are you one of these people that believe KAT spells cat??????
Lets say Billy Bob was out herping in West Texas in 2002 and "says" he caught a pair of whatever. He provides pictures of his animals that he found wild caught and even showed people in the field what he found. It is STILL an honor system. Anyone can easily fabricate the whole thing. Where you choose to draw your line is up to you, but it does not change the fact that THERE ARE NO FACTS! This is even true, yet obviously less so, when someone may have had another guy there to witness the event of said wild capture. The witness could be in on it. Yes, I know, that is far fetched, but still possible. So the ONLY way to know for 100% sure is to find it yourself. Beyond that, there is nothing you can do. Somewhere down the line at some point you ALWAYS have to resort to taking what one man tells you at face value. Even if you find it yourself, your peers have to take your word for it. Wow, look at that, STILL face value!
This is a very good point you make, now with that said. One of the people that I am referring to that has had a cloud of doubt cast upon them, has been suspected of that very thing. Now I have no fact of this so I never brought it up, how ever I can say that PERSON X has miss represented animals for sale. Does it mean every animal was miss represented nooooooooooo but once a there has been a problem with that person we have some type of responsibility to believe there are other mix ups with the stock. My question was what to do with this info. Well for me I would do the honorable thing and disclose these animals as being from previous questionable stock (see there is that thick scull again)
If you choose to draw your lines a little tighter and closer to home, that's your call, I have no problem with that. I choose to take into account much more then 1 or 2 little things. If you think that what you do makes things any better, then you are the one in denial. Wrap your little brain around it, it's not hard to figure out. IT ALWAYS BOILS DOWN TO A MANS WORD, HIS CHARACTER, HIS EXPERIENCES, HIS MISTAKES AND THE MORPHOLOGICAL CONDITIONS OF THE LINE YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ACQUIRING FROM HIM.
So to you if the person has been questionable in the past but he has the MORPHOLOGICAL TRAITS THAT YOU WANT than its ok to re-draw the line in the sand. Please forgive me I did not realize that the genetics of captive stock was depicted by this. THAT IS THE EPITOME OF DENIAL RIGHT THERE. I would hope that you would look past your MORPHOLOGICAL wants and disclose information as to the fact that your stock has been obtained from someone that has had issues in the past. My little brain has been wrapped around this topic for awhile and my little brain has the ability of honesty, does yours, or will you be in such denial that you cant fathom the simplest thought process???????? Try to portray yourself better than some of these people, use that helmet toting skull of yours and be honest and realized you may have tainted stock from some of these people. Without doing so you may end up as being looked upon by some as dishonest as well.
Since you seem to be missing what I say, here it is AGAIN!
Oh no its not missing me at all, I here what your saying, its just hard to imagine your saying it, im dumb founded by the denial.
I do not deny that there's been mistakes.
Mistakes being plural !!!!!!!!
I do not deny that there could be problems with ANYONE'S "pure bred" animals. I never have, and I never will (unless I find it myself).
hell its right under your nose, but you will have to use the thought process of a fith grader can at least do that???
All I have said is that I choose to draw my lines elsewhere and I've made a point to quantify why I choose to do so. You don't have to like it and you certainly do not have to agree with it.
What point have you made, none. You stated you know someone has made mistakes but you choose to believe your genetics are pure. If that is quantifying something then yes sire you did quantify it.
Now, do us all a favor and take your buddy "Billy Bob" out for a drink and get off your soap box.
I was never on a soap box until your complete denial, the ability to justify something to fit your cause is definitely a genetic trait.(lol0) And hell yes I will drink a beer with Billy Bob i dont hat them i just wont believe there genetics. I just know that it may not be a premium beer they bring unless I see him buy it with my own 2 eyes. Other wise its just a generic beer lol
Its time for a new topic, lets move on to another one im bored with this allready.
