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...and since I had camera in the room, figured I'd get a shot or so..
Though taken quickly and with the snakes in a manic mood,I think these shots would get a solid "3" on the Mesa/Schofield scale.
nigrita
mex-mex
this one looks like his daddy, huh Tony?
Currituck eastern
and one (ot) cornsnake....
wc x bloodred
I'm hoping this pair did their job this year.....
female SFMK
male
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!
..forgot. Yearling from pair in original post..
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing" 
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
Mark those are some nice animals! I really like that Cain King. all of them look great.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra
Those babies are all pretty sweet - but those Mole Kings are awesome!
Tim
Very nice Mark!
And the underlying textbook "splendida" pattern in that one that is also found in many other nigrita is something that I have always found EXTREMELY interesting to say the least.
As you know, the only reason you don't see more of that in most MBK's is because most of the very limited gene pool in the hobby have been bred to display more solid black(even as hatchlings).
I have seen pics of a few that anyone in the entire WORLD would swear in court were 100% splendida as hatchlings, only to find they grew into absolutely solid black animals well within their first year of maturing.
Who the heck knows if these are simply a melanistic form of MBK as they gradually range south. A clinal variant of sorts similar to the brooks king for example.
I am quite sure this will continue to puzzle the scientific herp world for some time to come.
I would bet a dollar to a donut that if more wild one's were hunted in their more southern Sonaran range, one would see far more individuals with a very pronounced splendida pattern too.
BTW, the "Mesa/Schofield" scale thing was funny as heck!!..LMAO!!!!!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
I think MBK are melanistic Splendida.....
Hatching with pattern that turns black is common with a few snakes including the melanistic Thayeri.......
But....are their pure black getula way south of the border (Baja)? Those may be the true MBKs.......Or maybe something different?
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com
"I think MBK are melanistic Splendida"
Me too, it is tough to figure it any different really. Still puzzling as to the "why" though.
Nature at it's very best!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
Its funny guys. I was talking to Jeff Serrao today about why some isolated populations of cal kings are stark black and white and popular for this trait as opposed to the more normal coloration. One theory I have is the possiblity the black and white cals are found in more extreme desert habitats and are maybe not that active during the day due to intense heat. Possible lack of sun exposure due to more crepuscular life style may have halted gradual discoloration because protection from the suns UV rays is not needed. It could be just a matter of isolation and lack of gene flow as well due to their localities. Similar to rosy boa populations/localities.
IDK, but something about nigrita just looks off from splendida to me. I stated to Doug in a recent email that maybe its the overall dark eye coloration which could be the melanism in effect. Their head and neck structure always looks a bit less robust to me than splendida as well. Still, I have seen slender and robust holbrooki, and some pretty robust MBKs as well. Shrug???
...some of the best $25. hatchlings out there. I mean, talk about bulletproof snakes!
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!
I want a pair of those this year. Don't let Trumbower beg them off you this time! LOL
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“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson
That's why I posted him Tony. They hatched in time this year! You gonna be there?
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!
My last camera ended up being a used one off EBAY. Someone who knows cameras came over and told me the thing was broken, the focus and autofocus. But I have been struggling trying to get some pics you guys might like. Not a milk, but it might explain alot, LMAO! I was up late getting this for you guys so be appreciative. I was.
..and here I thought you'd appreciate something with your name attached to it...
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!
"and here I thought you'd appreciate something with your name attached to it"
She's gotta have Jeff's name or someone else's tattoed on her somewhere! 
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
OOOPs.....I thought that was Jeff? (jk
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra
HAHAHAHAAA!!!....HAHAHHHAAAAA!!!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
Keep em cumming Jeff! 
lol
is she your lab assistant???......
Boy...talk about not having high standards!!
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Genesis 1:1
Youre right. A red tail boa? Should have used an albino burm. Very low.
>>Youre right. A red tail boa? Should have used an albino burm. Very low.
ROFLMAO.......Now that's funny.......HAHAHAHA
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com
LMAO! That would have been funny!
>>LMAO! That would have been funny!
But it was just a Common Boa not even a True Red Tail.......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com
Most guys didnt notice there was even a snake in the picture. Glad you did, top notch!
Looked like a mid sized BCI? not sure what else there was worth looking at 
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We wouldn't have 6 and a half billion people if you had to be beautiful to get laid.
6.6 African House snakes
3.2 reticulated pythons
.1 corn snake
4.2 Florida Kings
1.2 speckled kings
1.2 ball pythons
0.0.1 Argentine boa
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
Nope, most guys were noticing that she was just trying to wash off the memory of what she just went thru.
Grow up son.
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Genesis 1:1
Sure, as soon as you give me 1 good reason....LMAO, please keep religion to the flatlanders.
>>Nope, most guys were noticing that she was just trying to wash off the memory of what she just went thru.
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>>Grow up son.
Some stuff you just can't wash off now a days......LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com
>>Most guys didnt notice there was even a snake in the picture. Glad you did, top notch!
Well....It was covering the only parts to confirm if it was even a woman in the picture at all.........I couldn't really tell from the rest of the picture.......LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com
Was that no one is complaining it was a bad pic. Except for the one guy who couldnt ID the SPECIES! And I wasnt talking about the snake! ROFLMAO!!
>>Was that no one is complaining it was a bad pic. Except for the one guy who couldnt ID the SPECIES! And I wasnt talking about the snake! ROFLMAO!!
Oh....the species is for certain a Homosapien.....I was just wondering if it was a Homosexual Homosapien.......My women never came with instructions......excuse the pun........
BTW.....
Your best photography ever Jeff....Great job!
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
She is if I ask real nice....
Lol.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com
was that Justin Bieber?
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“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson
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