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Some Interesting Bull Snake Morphs - DUW

jonellopez Aug 06, 2010 05:20 AM

Hi Everyone

I just recently finished taking pics of this seasons hatchlings so I'd like to share to all of you Pit Freaks here. I've been working on a few small projects and finally had a chance to breed some of them this season. This also gave my older animals the chance for some "time off."

First project this year was to breed my 1.2 Red Bulls het for speckled animals. I produced these guys from a Speckled poss multi het male and my awesome Locality Kingsville, TX Red female a few years ago to try to produce a super red speckled bullsnake. The nicest of the females (a first timer)did not produce any speckled animals but gave me some nice red hatchlings. Here's one of her daughter Red Bull Snake.

This season the other female produced what I was aiming to get a couple of years ago. A nice Speckled/Patternless Red Bull Snake.

This 2nd female who was in her 2nd year of breeding gave me a really cool surprise this season when this one popped out of the egg. An Axanthic Speckled/Patternless Bull Snake.

The 2nd adult female and the male only produced a nice speckled animal last year so this years clutch proved that the original speckled male(grandpa) was in fact het axanthic and the gene was passed on to both parents. This animal also has a darker and more defined striping than what you would see from a speckled animal due to the "Red Bull" influence. I wonder how she would look like as an adult.

Here's one of their axanthic clutch mate. Notice the coloration on the 1st half of the animal and small blotches due to the Kingsville Red Bull pattern.

The 2nd project this season involves 2.2 Quadruple het animals produced from my Axanthic White-sided Speckled/Patternless male bred to one of my Stillwater Hypo females a couple of years back. Although I really like the Stillwater Hypo mutation as as it is I couldn't resist to see what would result from breeding this beautiful mutation in to other morphs. Both pairs bred successfully and the first time females both produced a small but 100% viable clutch. After bearing what seemed like a very looong incubation period here are some animals that was produced.

This may be and what I believe is one of the first White-sided "Stillwater" Hypo. This double mutation is very subtle and you only see hypo gene evident on this animals' blotches and the faint side pattern. For those who is familiar with the Stillwaters a year or two or growth will really show some dramatic effects on the contrast and amount of black on the animal.

The females also produced a couple more of these little fellas.

Axanthic Speckled/Patternless Bull Snake

Speckled/Patternless Bull Snake

Then my eyes really quadrupled in size when I saw these two little buggers sticking their heads out!

Whohooo! Multi-morphs! First pic is a female then the 2nd pic is the male (definitely a keeper). One can get dizzy and delirious just from thinking about what this pair can produce when bred back to the quadruple het sire/dam. Bring out your pencils and paper kids! Let's do some fun punnet square exercises!

Needless to say I couldn't be any happier with the small but satisfying production this year. I hope you guys can share and appreciate my excitement. Thanks for looking and hope you all like my post. BTW, here's a very nice normal Bull Snake for good measure. Enjoy!


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Replies (18)

monklet Aug 06, 2010 11:22 AM

Wow, that first one is a real jaw-dropper!

I like this one too. Reminds if of Crotalus o. oreganus for some reason.

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jonellopez Aug 07, 2010 02:02 AM

Hi Brad

Thanks. I'm really tempted to keep this one to see how she would change over time but I can't keep them all.

I have seen some oreganus with some faint side blotches in between the main ones locally so I know what you mean.
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donv Aug 06, 2010 12:05 PM

They are all incredible but I really like that red bull in first pic. BTW, you take some killer pictures.

jonellopez Aug 07, 2010 02:04 AM

Hi Donv

Thanks. Although the dam was a het speckled she was pretty red herself and she actually passed on her looks to this one as well.
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Jonel M. Lopez

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dan felice Aug 07, 2010 05:41 AM

wow, my head is spinning! really nice work jonel!

jonellopez Aug 08, 2010 01:25 AM

Thanks Dan. I bet you excited to breed those bull snakes on your pic.
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Ryan_Sikola Aug 06, 2010 04:26 PM

UHHH The patternless red bull is out of this world!

The patternless axanthics are awesome with their dark eyes!

I'm looking for a female patternless white sided to trio up my hypo patternless project...

Adisch Aug 07, 2010 08:12 AM

Wow! Patternless axanthics and patternless looks so good! Makes me really want to get in to bullsnakes!

jonellopez Aug 08, 2010 01:23 AM

Thanks. Well, why don't you? I think all of us would agree. hehe.
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Jonel M. Lopez

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MaxPeterson Aug 07, 2010 12:51 PM

Very nice, congratulations.
BTW, what camera set-up are you using?
Thanks.
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jonellopez Aug 08, 2010 01:20 AM

I only use a Canon Rebel XSI (a budget DSLR), an EF-S 60mm Canon USM Macro lens, and a Canon 580 EX II as a flash. I really like cropped sensors and it's benefits over the cons compared to the full frame systems. So I'd like to and hope to upgrade into a Canon 7D in the future.
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Jonel M. Lopez

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MaxPeterson Aug 09, 2010 08:47 PM

Thanks, I've got the 20D, but need to work on my skills.
The 7D should be nice.
Thanks, again,
Max
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Jason Nelson Aug 07, 2010 02:07 PM

Congrats Jonel

WOW The Red Bull is stunning for a hatchling and should be smoking as an adult. I dig the Axanthic with Kingsville pattern way cool and always like the those beautiful Speckled Axanthics.

I produce a handful of first timers this year. Just haven't had the time to post pics.

Congrats again bro. Smoking animals as always.

Jason

jonellopez Aug 08, 2010 01:14 AM

Thanks Jason.

I would love to see what you produced on your side. I'm sure you have a lot of different things that popped out this season.

Hurry up and get us some pics! hehe.
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Jonel M. Lopez

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KenRoshak Aug 07, 2010 08:45 PM

I've always enjoyed your professional looking photos and your "subject material" is as good as it gets! And speaking of beautiful...this pic is one of the Hypo Stillwaters I bought from you. The pair is doing great, eating like hogs and are so darn colorful. The other was "blue" but also, so gorgeous. Thanks again!
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jonellopez Aug 08, 2010 01:04 AM

Hi Ken

Thanks to you as well and glad you're enjoying working with them. I would love too see a pic of the high orange/low black female when she sheds. Looks like the high contrast/high black male is looking great. Keep in touch. Thanks.
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Jonel M. Lopez

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reako45 Aug 09, 2010 01:02 PM

Amazing! Really awesome what you've managed to produce w/ these snakes, Jonel.

reako45

john dhont Aug 10, 2010 04:36 PM

Those snakes are amazing! Difficult to choose which one is the nicest. Great job!

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