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Just thought I'd post a couple of pics of my albino yellow rats.The male is the smaller one and is a brighter yellow than the female! Jeff

Very cool Jeff!

And those don't look to have the "bubblegum" medley involved either.

Howie Sherman Still has those I think too.

~Doug
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>>Very cool Jeff!
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>>And those don't look to have the "bubblegum" medley involved either.
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>>Howie Sherman Still has those I think too.
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>> ~Doug
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What would be an indicator of the bubblegum? I am curious since my albino yellow look similar but with a blood red tinge overall. This pict doesn't show the true bright red color but gives you an idea of the overlay of color.

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Sonya

I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
Happy Bunny

The one's Jeff posted, and yours from what I can see don't have the strong pink hue that bubblgums are noted for. Jeff's seem to be very yellow as would be expected.

Can you post a good entire body shot of yours?. That will make it a lot easier to see what is going on.

regards, ~Doug
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Bubblegums can also display a very pronounced red/orange coloration to their color scheme too, or can be an extremely light and pale. In other words, are extremely variable...LOL!

My friend used to have several that were very red/orange/pink with almost no pattern. But as in my earlier post, they can also be very bold patterned as well.

Given that there are three different animals involved, it is pretty understandable that they aren't exactly a "cookie cutter" type of snake to say the least.

~Doug
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Full picts of Torque

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Sonya

I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
Happy Bunny

Yeah, as far as I can tell by just the phenotype alone, that one seems to be more of what a typical amel Yellow Rat would look like.

Of course as you already know, unless you don't know 100% of it's genetic lineage, who really knows..LOL!

I certainly would have to go along with it being a Yellow Rat though.

That dude is definitely nice and robust!

~Doug
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Amel yellows would exhibit little to no pink/red in the background color as they are uniformly yellowish as normal morphs. I would think the pink/orange/reddish hues would develop more if there were black rat/Glades in the mix like the bubblegums. In pure amel yellows, I think the only non-yellow color is associated with the stripes and blotches, not background. For some reason, the amel yellows also have a combo of stripes and blotches, and do not completely loose the blotched juvie pattern. Just my humble opinion, but i could be wrong. Noticeable pinks/reds/orange in the BACKGROUND = not pure yellow IMHO.

True, and I would have to agree there. Now if there were a tad of naturally occurring Everglades somewhere in the lineage for whatever reason which is quite common in wild specimens, it could still be about as close as you could get more or less. As you know, if it is not a 50/50 amount of each, and only a fairly distant amount of Everglades in the animal's genetic composition, it can be pretty tough to discern in a normal phenotype animal.

At least it wouldn't be from a hodge-podge of all three subspecies, i.e."bubblegum rat"...LOL!

~Doug
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I think if you added melanin back into this specimen's color scheme, I would consider it to be a Yellow Rat as opposed to any other IMO.

~Doug
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I forget about how orange the S. Fla yellows can be. I could definitely see where the addition of amelanism would cause more pink background hues.

I forgot to also add this pic in my last post that basically looks like a yellow to me,.......pretty close to Sonya's snake too basically.

~Doug

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