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This super pastel male poped out of a egg and i was amazed to what he was so i asked my buddy greg graziani and he told me that they call it a super duper pastel he said that these are pretty rare and that even though they are just a super pastel that when you breed these super dupers that the babies come out brighter and nicer than just useing a regular looking super pastel i havent seen a super pastel look as good or better than this one yet if someone has super pastels that look like this im interested in seeing them thank you.
luis alonso
www.luisalonsoexotics.com

The following link might prove helpful.
I think you should read this.

Rather than comment on the snake, you want to point out bad grammar? And after someone makes an obviously sarcastic remark with the implication that the OP is making things up (the "super duper" is on websites already), you reply to the OP with a link to some source for unofficial internet rules? While you're busy handing out life lessons on a snake forum, remember the one that everyones mothers told them when they were younger-If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

To the OP-very nice snake. I, like someone else mentioned, am wondering if there is a hidden fader gene at play there.
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we don't need nor care to have this type of behavior on this site. mods will remove your posts most likely, and you'll be lucky if they allow your IP address to be registered on this site. trolling is against the T.O.S. and is not acceptable here.
grow up and either focus your energy on learning and/or educating or don't come here at all.
adam jeffery
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" a.k.a. farfrumugen "
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

super duper pastel...lmao

You guys should see some of my super duper normals. While they are just normals, they tend to throw extremely high end completely normal babies. I hear these are pretty rare too.

THAT IS GREAT MAN I HOPE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME FOR SALE. SARCASM WILL NEVER GET YOU ANYWHERE. ITS FUNNY HOW SOME PEOPLE CAN BE SO DISRESPECTFUL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THERE COMPUTERS.

You might find the following link interesting.
You should read this.

I was a dick!
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the moment you ignore the irritation........it disappears as fast as it came.

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>>I was a dick!
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Ignorance about ball pythons! Why don't you call up Greg G and laugh at him? Are you oblivious? Guess so... nice to see a rookie open his mouth and insert foot but next time you want to bash some one try doing your homework. Good luck with the super super normals!
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Brian Hettinger
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I am no rookie. Far far from it. I have been doing this since I bought a pair of het for albinos from Bob Clark back in the 90's. Well Ive been doing it since before then, but that started my official journey into ball pythons. Man I've been on this roller coaster for a long time. I know my post seemed a little unsolicited, but I am just sitting here in shock. I wonder when did everyone quit looking at what they have and what they produce for what they are, instead of for what they are not. The super pastel in question is gorgeous no doubt, but why can it not be just a gorgeous super pastel. I know Kevin and others, have found different hidden genes in their pastel lines as well as in other lines (i.e. woma etc). With that being said, any pastel would hatch with this hidden gene would be some sort of combo morph. It wouldn't just be a super pastel that threw exceptional offspring. I was being sarcastic, I am sorry for coming off like I did. I do have some normal females that throw crazy exceptional normals, reduced patterns, tiger patterns, stripes, exceptional colors, and I even have a normal female that I can expect at least one of her eggs to hatch out a ringer every year. It is very strange, this year she was bred to a lavender albino and out of 9 eggs I got 1.1 ringers. I know I am kind of rambling but my point is what happened? Why does everything that gets produced HAVE to be something different? It seems to me that it is a marketing ploy. Pastels are getting harder to sell these days. Not many people just straight up enjoy their snakes anymore.

In no way did i say or will i say that this is a new gene its not it is still a super pastel just like all super pastels.
But these super pastels are not just any regular supers. As you can see in the photo they are different looking and the outcome of there offspring look better. Greg is a good buddy of mine he basically started the pastels just like kevin and if he tells me that these super dupers are what they are then im taking his word for it.I have seen the offspring these super dupers can make in person at gregs facility. Buddy you know you want him in your collection dont be mad.

Lol I could find a use for him. Point taken. He is a very beautiful animal, but I dont see the need in calling them anything different. Pastels are highly variable though and it is doubtful that they would produce more high quality offspring then say a "normal" super pastel would. My point is my normal females produce some crazy stuff, and it is guaranteed in every clutch from some of them that I will see crazy normals. To me, my females are still normals. Do you see what I mean? I do apologize for not being happy for you though, and making your super pastel seem like less than it is. It is a very beautiful animal, and Im sure it will produce some amazing offspring no doubt.

Dont worry about it man its all good.

Hi very nice take a look a few posts down the page at the post "Fader gene without so much mumbo jumbo" the head looks alot alike. Kevin has had another gene come out of his pastel line. send him an email.
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Jason Amos

1.1 Staffordshire Bull Terriers
Ball Pythons
1.2 Lesser Platty
0.2 Mojave
1.0 Albino
0.1 Spider Het Albino
0.1 Pinstripe
1.1 DH Genetic Stripe / Albino
0.2 Pastel
0.1 66% Poss. Het Albino
0.7 Normals

Albey makes Supers like yours, they are hot critters.

Congrats! That is a Super Duper! Mr. Graziani sounds like a gracious, nice fellow...awesome animal!