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More on mimicry...

Sunherp Aug 09, 2010 01:12 PM

Let's keep this going!

I think a person would be hard-pressed to contradict the idea that a tricolored pattern disrupts a snake's outline, makes it difficult to track the animal during movement, and may even provide it some camouflage in certain instances. That said, mimicry, at least to some extent and form, is a pretty well supported idea. For a basic overview of the different mimicry hypotheses, the Wikipedia article provides satisfactory coverage.

The genus Micrurus ranges from the southern US to Argentina and generally consists of brightly ringed snakes well known for their aposematism. Throughout that range (and even outside of it, but still within the Americas - covered below), numerous other tricolored snakes, some mildly venomous and some harmless, occur. Tricolored members of the genus Lampropeltis share much of their range with Micrurus, and often mimic the later much better than they're given credit for. For example, L. triangulum and M. distans along Mexico's Pacific Coast, M. elegans along Mexico’s Caribbean lowlands, and M. mipartitus in Caribbean Central America. While our beloved Lampros do a pretty good job of mimicking Micrurus, they seem to be genetically constrained from becoming “perfect” mimics. It’s a mildly venomous genus known as Pliocercus which comes closest to Micrurus in color and pattern.

For some excellent reading, check out Allopatric Mimicry by Curt Eckerman, Coral Snake Mimicry: Does it Occur by Greene and McDiarmid, and various works by Harper and Pfennif, amongst others. I have .pdf copies if anyone has trouble finding them.

Here are a few question/answer sets from my understanding of the subject of Batesian mimicry (since that’s what the original thread appeared to focus on). Hopefully someone else will jump in here, too (Vinny?). There are no concrete answers, and this shouldn’t be a major surprise. There could be entire books written on this subject, so this’ll just be a skimming from the surface. The complexities of Nature are what make this so fun!

Q Why do Lampropeltis living outside the natural range of Micrurus often maintain a tricolored pattern?

A People often think of mammals as the ultimate predators of snakes. While it’s true that mammals do eat a lot of reptiles, birds are incredibly efficient predators of snakes, and in many instances are probably a snake’s greatest natural threat. Also, while most mammals see the world in a gray-scale, birds see colors very well. When the migration route of various predatory birds is mapped overlaying the distribution of tricolored Lampropeltis, it becomes readily noticeable that many birds wintering well within Micrurus range migrate North to breed/feed/summer in the Western US. Having a tricolored pattern would, then, convey an advantage to Lampropeltis living outside of the range of Micrurus but within the migratory range of snake predators which spend time with Micrurus.

Q How does a bite from a deadly snake “teach” birds to avoid brightly ringed snakes if the bird doesn’t live long enough to “learn” from its mistake?

A That’s not quite how it works. Here’s a quick-and-dirty overview on the mechanics of Batesian mimicry: Birds which are willing to take risks and attempt to feed on snakes displaying aposematic coloration are more likely to be weeded out of the reproductive population. Birds which avoid the brightly colored beasties don’t face that risk as much, so they have a genetic advantage which gets passed along to their offspring. Now, we can’t forget that there are other types of mimicry, too!

Q Why, then, aren’t the mimics better at mimicking the models?

A Well, some of them are pretty damn close! Check out some of the example I gave above! But, a species only has so much genetic plasticity within which to work. A species’ ancestors determine (for the most part) what tools it has to work with. Some animals, like the Pliocercus I talked about earlier, have greater genetic variability with regard to their pattern. Also, gene flow can temper the evolution of mimicry.

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amazondoc Aug 09, 2010 01:18 PM

>>Q Why do Lampropeltis living outside the natural range of Micrurus often maintain a tricolored pattern?
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>>A People often think of mammals as the ultimate predators of snakes. While it’s true that mammals do eat a lot of reptiles, birds are incredibly efficient predators of snakes, and in many instances are probably a snake’s greatest natural threat. Also, while most mammals see the world in a gray-scale, birds see colors very well. When the migration route of various predatory birds is mapped overlaying the distribution of tricolored Lampropeltis, it becomes readily noticeable that many birds wintering well within Micrurus range migrate North to breed/feed/summer in the Western US. Having a tricolored pattern would, then, convey an advantage to Lampropeltis living outside of the range of Micrurus but within the migratory range of snake predators which spend time with Micrurus.

Oh, that's a good one! That should have been obvious to anyone who knows the difference between mammalian and avian vision, but that isn't something that occurred to me. Thanks for posting it.
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Arkanis Aug 09, 2010 05:21 PM

Yep... very interesting about the bird migratory paths and how the mimics outside the range of the model can still benefit

DMong Aug 09, 2010 01:31 PM

Yes, this thread makes my head hurt for certain!

One thing I CAN say with certainty though, and that is you have some nice poly pics there bro!..LOL!

~Doug
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DMong Aug 09, 2010 01:55 PM

Something else that comes to mind on this that is very similar to what Cole and some others have already mentioned.

At dusk or dawn, the individual triad rings(especially the lighter ones) on a tricolored snake while moving at a fair clip through grass in a serpentine fashion would appear to be going swiftly from side to side, leaving the predator very confused on the direction the entire snake is actually traveling. The fact that the mutiple rings would tend to break-up the entire snake silhouette multiplies this effect even more so. Many times in nature, seconds saved can make all the difference between life and death to many animals.

I have seen this myself personally. And while I am probably not THE dumbest of all animals(debatable), it still confused me quite a bit when I went to grab it..LOL!

~Doug
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vjl4 Aug 09, 2010 02:17 PM

Thats an awesome point that I have never thought of!

I think that gene flow from regions where the mimic and model are in sympatry to regions where the model is absent can also help explain why you have regions of models without mimics. While you would expect drift to break down the pattern of the model, with constant gene flow, birds flying around, and ranges expanding and contracting through time you can imagine a scenario where the model can keep the pattern.

Vinny
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RG Aug 09, 2010 02:43 PM

Startle Coloration

Startle coloration is another effective use of color.

Corals, Milks, Kings, etc. they're all secretive animals that tend to burrow, and when they're exposed they display a flash of color that surprises the predator. All these snakes may not look exactly the same, but enlist the same "startling" effect.

Red Eye Tree frogs use this as well.

This, Startling Coloration, is used by most (if not all) of the tri-color or bi-color/banded snakes in the world.

I feel this is one major advantage of the color contrast (yellow, black, white, red and orange). The contrast works with color or black and white vision.

Like others have said, the other obvious effect of a banded snake moving is the hypnotic!

If you haven't seen this in person...go take any banded snake and let them go for a slither in the grass...make sure you have PLENTY of room to catch them!

Fun stuff!

-Rusty

markg Aug 10, 2010 01:06 PM

I like this. The first zonata I ever saw almost got away without me touching it because I was taken aback by the color, and I had to think for a split second what I was looking at.
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CKing Aug 29, 2010 04:57 PM

>>Startle Coloration
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>>Startle coloration is another effective use of color.
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>>Corals, Milks, Kings, etc. they're all secretive animals that tend to burrow, and when they're exposed they display a flash of color that surprises the predator. All these snakes may not look exactly the same, but enlist the same "startling" effect.
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>>Red Eye Tree frogs use this as well.

The flash colors are normally hidden. For example, the eyes of a sleeping red-eyed treefrog are normally closed and the yellow and blue flash colors on the flanks are hidden by the legs when they are at rest. The tricolor kingsnakes have nothing to "flash." Their "flash colors" are not hidden but out in the open. In fact, when they are startled and start to move, they become unicolor medium gray, hardly a flash color.

GerryG Aug 09, 2010 06:10 PM

Nice follow up, well written and succinct. 100% in line with what my own plodding brain has managed to reason out on the subject, with one noticeable exception, while I did know the coloration was more for the benefit of our feathered friends since they see in color and are most probably the major predators of reptiles, you make an...

Interesting point on the migratory bird routes, hadn't thought of that nor do I think I ever would have. Never did manage to come up with a plausible explanation of why the colors would be retained in some areas when it would seemingly have been more beneficial to evolve a more subdued/camouflaged coloration... feeling like my reasoning skills... are less than... adequate... head hurts... may be another brain cell firing up.

Thanks for the post Cole... and the food for thought. Btw, I haven't yet tried to locate the articles you mentioned but should you feel so inclined... don't hesitate to send them this way.

Gerry

markg Aug 10, 2010 01:20 PM

I can understand for snakes/milksnakes in or near the range of coralsnakes. But what about mtn kingsnakes? There are no migratory birds eating San Bernardino mtn kings for example (or are there?). There may be owls. Are owls put off by a colorful snake?

Perhaps mimicry was the original reason for the color in ancestral stock of what are now mtn kings being tricolor, and the coloration still works for a number of reasons.
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snakeadventures Aug 10, 2010 04:57 PM

Then there is a designer. The artwork that adorns the scales of milk snakes is just more evidence of the creator.
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vjl4 Aug 11, 2010 09:39 AM

No, it is not. Milk snakes (and colubrids for that matter) are relatively new species on the block, lampropeltinine snakes only colonized the New World ~24 million years ago, and their ancestors did not have a tricolor pattern. The tricolor pattern evolved in the New World, perhaps multiple times, they were not made that way at the "moment of creation". The fact that the correlation between model and mimic (in both pattern and range) is not perfect should be a clue that there is no designer. Nature is remarkably imperfect.

To assume design because there is a pattern is a logical fallacy. Salt forms a perfect cube when crystalized. But no one has to design it that way, its consequence of the physical characteristics of the elements sodium and chlorine.

Vinny
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“There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that whilst this planet has gone on cycling according to the fixed laws of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.” -C. Darwin, 1859

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markg Aug 11, 2010 01:36 PM

What about the ugly snakes?
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bobassetto Aug 11, 2010 06:32 PM

that's why god invented beer!!!!

fliptop Aug 13, 2010 06:27 AM

Perfect!

markg Aug 13, 2010 04:21 PM

Nice response! Beer is such as useful invention. Perhaps there is a design after all.
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Mark

vjl4 Aug 11, 2010 09:42 AM

I think your right that mimicry is why the pattern evolved in the first place, but then it could be maintained because it provides benefits other than mimicry or, once evolved, its hard to loose the tricolor pattern so its maintained by developmental inertia.

Here is a cool paper about it:

Body size as a primary determinant of ecomorphological diversification and the evolution of mimicry in the lampropeltinine snakes (Serpentes: Colubridae)

Vinny

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CKing Aug 29, 2010 05:12 PM

>>I can understand for snakes/milksnakes in or near the range of coralsnakes. But what about mtn kingsnakes? There are no migratory birds eating San Bernardino mtn kings for example (or are there?). There may be owls. Are owls put off by a colorful snake?
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Good questions. The speculation about birds avoiding tricolored kingsnakes is based entirely on myth. As Harry Greene wrote in his book Snakes, the evolution of mystery in nature, not a single person has ever observed a bird scared away by a presumed mimic's tricolor pattern. All that exists are the Brodie experiments, in which clay models were placed on the forest floor and the number of peck marks on the clay is recorded. The results are inconclusive because if there are fewer peck marks on the tricolored clay models, it may be because the tricolored models are better camouflaged. Besides, the tricolored models were not feared at all, since there were birds that pecked on them, proving in fact that birds DO NOT fear the tricolored snake models. If you are the first person to observe birds fearing tricolored kingsnakes, then you would be the first person in human history to have made that observation!

>>Perhaps mimicry was the original reason for the color in ancestral stock of what are now mtn kings being tricolor, and the coloration still works for a number of reasons.
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Mimicry has never been proven. In fact, the kingsnakes don't look like coral snakes much because the arrangements of the color bands are different. Red on yellow, kills a fellow. Red on black, venom lack. In contrast to the lack of observation of fear in birds and other predators, there are published accounts that the tricolored kingsnakes are cryptic from no less an authority as Richard Zweifel and the husband and wife ornithological team of Goodman and Goodman. Yet these reports have been ignored, and the mimicry hypothesis continue to be portrayed as virtual proven scientific fact. There are probably very few scientific hypothesis that has more believers and less empirical support than the coral snake mimicry hypothesis. We have yet to find a single observation that a mimic has scared a predator into fleeing. Be the first to report it and earn a Nobel Price.

CKing Aug 29, 2010 12:00 AM

>>Let's keep this going!
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>>That said, mimicry, at least to some extent and form, is a pretty well supported idea.

No it is not. As Harry Greene pointed out there is not a single observation available that shows a tricolored mimic has ever scared off a predator. He did suggest that Brodie's experiments support aposematism, but those experiments are flawed because the data is also consistent with the crypsis model, since the lack of attack on some clay models may be the result of birds not seeing them rather than fearing them.

>>Tricolored members of the genus Lampropeltis share much of their range with Micrurus, and often mimic the later much better than they're given credit for.

That is a leap. The similar color patterns can also be explained by the crypsis hypothesis. If a particular color pattern is cryptic in one area, then unrelated species of snakes can converge upon the same color pattern simply because they are equally well camouflaged.

>>Q Why do Lampropeltis living outside the natural range of Micrurus often maintain a tricolored pattern?

Simple. Field biologists have noticed that tricolored L. zonata is well camouflaged in woodland habitats. They are not so well camouflaged on South Todos Santos Island, which has a desert landscape. As a result, the zonata on that island does not maintain a tricolor pattern. Instead, they look like L. g. californiae, which occupies more open habitats than zonata. If mimicry works so well, why does it not work on South Todos Santos Island? Is it because the birds would welcome a meal of an easily seen tricolored kingsnake and only those that are well camouflaged (i.e. without red coloration) can survive?

>>Q How does a bite from a deadly snake “teach” birds to avoid brightly ringed snakes if the bird doesn’t live long enough to “learn” from its mistake?

Coral snakes are not that good at biting. They have short fangs. Birds do not avoid coral snakes. There is absolutely no evidence to show that they do. Remember what Harry Greene wrote?

>>Q Why, then, aren’t the mimics better at mimicking the models?
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The mimicry hypothesis is just that, an unsupported hypothesis. Yet some people treat it as proven scientific fact. That means the mimicry hypothesis has evolved into dogma. Dogmas are believes held by some that do not require supporting evidence, nor can they ever be falsified.

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