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Sinaloan Mountain Kingsnake
Lampropeltis webbi
www.biolib.cz/en/taxon/id190124/
Does anybody have a photo of this snake? Or even actually have one? Not a Sinaloan milk snake, but a king snake.

>>Sinaloan Mountain Kingsnake
>>Lampropeltis webbi
>>www.biolib.cz/en/taxon/id190124/
>>Does anybody have a photo of this snake? Or even actually have one? Not a Sinaloan milk snake, but a king snake.

Click on the sponsor link above on sierraherps...... Bob Hansen has all the info you can get concerning webbi
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

>>>>Sinaloan Mountain Kingsnake
>>>>Lampropeltis webbi

http://www.sierraherps.com/gallery/webbi/Animals/index.html
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

Somewhere in my old slides I have photos of two snakes (one DOR) that were found back in '73 - '74 in the vicinty of El Palmito on hwy 40 at the Sinaloa/Durango border. At the time we could not figure out what they were. The DOR was given to the Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History as they were one of the signers of my collecting permit. I think I shipped the other one a couple of years later to a friend in England who was with me
on the trip.
I have been searching for the slides as this subject came up a while back. So far all I have found is some habitat shots.
While on the suject of El Palmito, has anyone ever had a Dryodophis clifftoni from that same area? We collected one and it took me over a year to ID it.

theOLDherper
Pete

>>Somewhere in my old slides I have photos of two snakes (one DOR) that were found back in '73 - '74 in the vicinty of El Palmito on hwy 40 at the Sinaloa/Durango border. At the time we could not figure out what they were. The DOR was given to the Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History as they were one of the signers of my collecting permit. I think I shipped the other one a couple of years later to a friend in England who was with me
>>on the trip.
>>I have been searching for the slides as this subject came up a while back. So far all I have found is some habitat shots.
>>While on the suject of El Palmito, has anyone ever had a Dryodophis clifftoni from that same area? We collected one and it took me over a year to ID it.
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>>theOLDherper
>>Pete

Pete....I wish you could find those photographs.....I would love to see them.....

As far as Dryadophis Cliftoni......I think they are only from that area.....I think Hardy described this lizard eater in 1964.........
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

I believe the new scientific name for this lizard eater is Mastigodryas cliftoni.........
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

"Somewhere in my old slides I have photos of two snakes (one DOR) that were found back in '73 - '74 in the vicinty of El Palmito on hwy 40 at the Sinaloa/Durango border. At the time we could not figure out what they were"

Wow!!, that is awesome that you ran into two of these back then Pete!

That is why being older than 20 can have it's rewards in this interesting hobby..LOL!

Way to go you old coot!!..LOL!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

This holotype is probably as close to seeing one as any of us will get anytime soon,......and if it is indeed a true subspecies.

They are only known from the isolated Sierra Madre Occidental of Mexico, and this species might even be described from just this one DOR specimen too, I'm not exactly sure though.

Don't expect to see one on anyone's table at the next show..LOL!

~Doug

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

To think that if I had known back then it might have been called L. petei, not webbi - LOL.
El Palmito was a fantastic area to hunt and I was so nieve about the crop they were growing there it wasn't till I had a rifle pointed at my head that I got smart - I never went back. A story in itself.
theOLDherper
Pete

HAHAHAAA!,......too funny man!!!

Yes, youcould have EASILY became the "fertilizer" to be honest!

"petei"..LOL!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

www.usatoday.com/news/world/2010-04-25-mexican-highway_N.htm
With the growing movement to legalize marijuana in the States and this highway going in to the area, maybe eventually herpers will be able to safely once again look for these snakes.

Please check out Bob's website before posting.......

Bryson has found more than just one specimen...... And their mtDNA is separate than all other species or subspecies in Mexico.......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

How is this Bryson managing to collect? Special permit? Armed guard? Illeagaly? What's the story?
theOLDherper
Pete

>>How is this Bryson managing to collect? Special permit? Armed guard? Illeagaly? What's the story?
>>theOLDherper
>>Pete
I guess it wasn't that bad in 2003 and 2004 ....... And yes he had special permits but not for collecting or importing to the States but for DNA testing.........
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

Interesting!

Yeah, I should have not posted the pic actually if that is what you meant, due to copyright.

oops!..LOL!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com