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I picked up a 2.3 group of asf's about a month ago and I been hoping to get some breeding going and hoping for the best and I go to clean there tank for the 3rd time since owning them today I noticed some mites on the bottom of the tank and in the aspin bedding but didn't really bother checking them to much just placed them in a seperate container, tossed the tank out, wipe down the area with bleach but have no idea on how to treat these rats.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. My snakes are in another room but I'm worried about them as well, I've treated them in the past with no pest stripes, would this be a good option to treat the rats and there living area?

Thanks

Use Prevent-A-Mite just like you would with your reptiles.

I tried to download a video I have on Youtube, but KS wouldn't accept it.

Here is a link to the video.
http://www.youtube.com/user/fgs9#p/u/25/lXBMgNXzgb0

If you have any questions I can be reached at fgsnakes@sbcglobal.net or you can call my cell at 408.981.6694

Best of luck.

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Hey Mr. Gundy, I appreciate the advice, I already found a buddy of mine out in brooklyn that has black night, he told me he's advised with you before=) thanks a million, but a question is do I spray my rats directly as I would the snakes to treat them? Thanks again=)

I use a diluted solution of IverOn (ivermectin). I can be purchased anyplace they sell cattle and livestock supplies. A 1 part Ivermectin to 4 parts water dilutes it enough to use on rodents and rodent cages very safely. I treat most of our breeding stock just as a standard process.

Now, any mites that are feeding on your rodents are not a danger to you or your snakes. Mites and other such parasites are very species specific. And as another poster stated, they could be wood mites that came from the bedding which are harmless. However, this may indicate that the bedding you are using is not kiln dried, which may not be the best choice for your animals.
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Are you sure about the 1 to 4 ratio? I have seen different strengths recommended, but usually they are approximately 5cc per liter of water, which is a 1 to 200 ratio. I may be misunderstanding you, and apologize if I am.
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I use 1 part IverOn to 5 parts water. I apply it using a small spray bottle to wet the backs of the mice or ASFs and then dab them with a paper towel to get the excess off. This treatment is mild enough to use on pinkies, I have been told, but never used it on such babies before. I got the treatment regime from a professional mouse breeder. It has worked well for me, but I only have about a dozen breeding rodents so I am able to put in the time of treating them this way.

Another application of Ivermectin is internally, via the water supply. I have been told you have a higher chance of over-dosing any rodents that may drink more water, or under-dosing the rodents that aren't drinking enough. The logic seemed sound to me, but this method would be WAY more practical for anyone that has more than a few breeding stock like I do. I don't know what the internally administered concentration recommendations are.
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Lincoln, NE
0.1 Pastel, 1.0 Pastel het Pied, 0.1 Pied, 0.1 Cinn, 1.0 Black Pewter, 1.0 Woma (hidden gene?), 0.1 Yellowbelly
2.0 Normals, 1.0 Thayeri, 0.1 Thayeri X Alterna, 0.1 crazy cat, 1.0 husband

From what I could tell, I check a few out under a MF glass and from that I compared to net references and they look more like tropical rat mites which sucks super a--- =( so I don't have a live stock supply store around, can I find the right kinda ivermectin paste at pet stores?

Mites that are feeding on the rodents are bad for your snakes,they turn in to hook worms.But yes make sure they are not wood mites,make sure they are feeding on rodents and treat them.My wife is a vet and gets reptiles with them all the time.They treat with panacur.
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"Mites that are feeding on the rodents are bad for your snakes,they turn in to hook worms." -- afcinc4747

I don't know what you may have meant with this statement. Mites and hookworms aren't even in the same taxonomic *phylum*. Mites are Arthropods (like spiders) while hookworms are Nematodes (like heartworms in dogs). One does not and cannot turn into the other.

Rodents can have hookworms as well as mites. Do you mean the mites themselves might carry hookworms? Because, again, those would be very species specific.

I work with wild Herps and Mammals and have had to get very familiar with the variety of parasites they might carry.

In any case, a series of Ivermectin treatments usually do a great job of eliminating a variety of endo- and ectoparasites, including both hookworms and mites.
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Lincoln, NE
0.1 Pastel, 1.0 Pastel het Pied, 0.1 Pied, 0.1 Cinn, 1.0 Black Pewter, 1.0 Woma (hidden gene?), 0.1 Yellowbelly
2.0 Normals, 1.0 Thayeri, 0.1 Thayeri X Alterna, 0.1 crazy cat, 1.0 husband

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