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Does anyone know if there is an Anerythristic gene in Black rat snakes? I know there are black rats that get more black than others. I want to know if there is any known Anery black rats.
Now, I know there are red albinos ("amel", so I would not think it far fetched to think there are "anery" or "black albino". These being more black, maybe a richer black?

I would like to get everyone's opinion before I post some other stuff.
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Got to love automatic Smilie faces, and no ability to EDIT your own posts! That was supposed to read ("Amel" ) not with the smilie face
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****Misty****

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"Due to intense Mind fog, all thoughts have been grounded."

Hi Misty,.....

Don Soderberg has a photo of an "axanthic" Texas Ratsnake that looks quite authentic, but I have no clue about it's origin at all. But I would bet you could easily find out if you contacted him.

Look pretty striking though, and definitely different with zero yellows/oranges, just stark blacks, greys and white.

As far as Blacks go, I can't say I am aware of any anery's or axanthic morphs, but who knows, could be almost ANYTHING somewhere owned by someone.

Down the ways here a good bit, "AlanShaheen" posted a thread about a VERY hypo-erythristic Texas Rat oddity that was captured on Max Peterson's property recently too.

Here is the link. This animal is WAY COOL!!, and so was the axanthic in Soderberg's photo.

later!, ~Doug
Link

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Attached are a two (bottom) pics of some true Anery Texas rats I have as well as that hypo-erythristic girl that was found on Max Petersons land in Texas. These animals I know for sure our 100% Texas. I have to say though I have never come accros a Anery/Axanthic Black rat. As Doug mentioned however I am sure there are a few out there under wraps. Good luck with your search and let us know if you come accros one. I would surely like to see one

Allen

Awesome snakes Allen!, glad you chimed in about these too.

BTW, sorry I spelled your name backwards in my earlier post..LOL!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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There you go:

http://www.cornsnake.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=81&Itemid=29

http://www.cornsnake.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=82&Itemid=29

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Ahh!, very interesting Herman!, thanks for sharing that.

Do you happen to know anything about it's history?, like if it just popped out of a clutch from some generic Blacks, or were locality specific parents, etc..?

Either way though, those are very cool for sure, I was just wondering if you knew any of this personally.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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From what I've heard, these are generic, non locale Black Ratsnakes, bred by Ben Hoiting (from the Netherlands). About 10 or so years ago, he just unexpectately hatched one from a clutch of normals, and decided to work on it. It turned out to be a recessive trait. Later on, he crossed them into lavender albino's, resulting into specimens with an odd, rather hard to describe, but actually quite nice blueish color.
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Nery interesting Herman!,..and thanks for that additional detailed info on those.

A very worthwhile project for sure!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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.....geeesh!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Just wait 'till you see my axanthic rusties. Pictures coming soon.
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I'm Dutch. Somebody shoot me.

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com