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Here are a mess of Ivory Pastel Anerythristics:

One of the babies on Aspen:

Ivories on the rocks:

Here is one of the Pastel induced aberrantly patterned Ivories:

Here he is with one of his cousins. A Pastel Induced aberrant Pastel-Hypo-Pearlescent Boa:

Here he is with one of his Non-Anerythristic siblings:

I’m having lots of fun this year !

The Boaphile's Spot !

I'm not even a big "anery" fan,but those are NICE! now the "pastels" are a pattern mutation too? wow!!! awesome!
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Boaphile,
Congratulations, you are throwing some great looking animals this year. I particularly like all of the pattern variants in the tail. The ivory babies do resemble ghosts but do have too much black towards the tail. What is interesting, and your litter shows it well to me again, is that the anerys I get from my ghost litters look very much like your ivory babies and some are very hard to tell from ghosts with less black in the tail. I have seen it again in a ghost litter this year and bet the anerys from my ghost x ghost litters will show this even more prominently. I have wondered whether anerys from ghost litters should be worth more since they show all of the features of the ivory babies in that they are anerythristics that show the PASTEL characteristics.
Your animals certainly are great looking anerythristics. Best of luck with the rest of your projects , especially your incredible albinos.
Bill
The older old timer

Doesn't induced mean 'forced' as in 'induced labor'? Regardless, they're beauties. Thanks for sharing...or showing off...
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Paul aka "PuppyChulo"

I know your the expert, so please explain. To me, the novice, those look like ghost. They look like the snakes that Linda H. recently posted. Please explain the genetics on those and point out what is different.
What should I notice or see that is different?
thanks

The Ivory anery boas are a pastel anery boa ( while a ghost is a hypo anery boa) Ivory aneries are awsome snakes...I have seen 1 ivory anery in person and they kill reg anery boas in appearance.(on top of that they should make the ghosts and snows even better when bred into those projects.)Later Randy T.
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You never experience life until you have kids..then you realize what you should have done rather then what you did do

The term “Ghost” in Herpetoculture is known to be an Anerythristic Hypomelanistic animal regardless of the species. These Ivories, while Anerythristic and may seemingly look somewhat similar to Ghost Boas are not because they are not “true” Hypos. They are Pastel, which in many instances translates into a beautiful and arguably frequently more beautiful that typical Hypos, still are not a single gene mutation that the Hypos carry. It’s all very complicated as one who attempted to explain this a year or so ago can attest. Anyhow, it just, the Pastel trait, just gets more interesting as time goes on. I am trying to think through what all might be happening now with these things since for the first time I have bred Pastel to Pastel myself this year. Both litters of these breeding have delivered ALL Pastels. What on Earth does that mean? I know not. It seems to be refining itself in the direction I would like it to go. Why, I don’t know why it’s working that way but working it is. One of the more interested side benefits I am just starting to see, again as a result of Pastel to Pastel breedings, in an increase in pattern abnormalities. I say “induced” meaning I believe the pattern abnormalities I am seeing are linked to one particular bloodline of my Pastels at least and perhaps can be expected in other Pastel bloodlines as well. Time and effort will tell. We will have to wait and see. I can’t wait for my next litter! I still say we are just scratching the surface with what can be done with Pastels and am just now starting to accomplish some of what others had done before me breeding Pastel to Pastels. It’s all good though which is very satisfying. Thanks for the Kudos!

One additional difference I see between the ghosts and the ivory boas is in body color. The ghosts have a very light body color which is different from the anerythristic littermates. I have no doubt that ivory anerys just like other extreme anerys would make for better ghosts and particularly better snows.

Your Pastel project is truely progressing in interesting ways. I am not that surprised that Pastel x Pastel gave you 100% Pastel but what you didn't say was how much of a range there was in the babies. It will be difficult for you to figure out exactly what the genetics of this is and to prove that you aren't selectively breeding for an extreme range of normal similar to breeding your Monster tail and getting babies with increasingly red tails. It is interesting that this result contrasts those who have bred pastel x pastel or times normal and claim to have proven the Pastel a "co-dominant trait". If that were true you wouldn't expect all of the babies from Pastel x Pastel to be Pastels. What is far more interesting is the amount of abarrent pattern that seems to be coming from the one line. This is something where you may really be able to figure out the genetics. Those animals are already great looking and have awesome potential when put into albinos and other morphs besides their value on their own as they get better in each generation. Along with their value on their own this projects serves as a nice example of what long term breeding can bring out in lines of animals and the extra benefits that can emerge over time such as your pattern abnormalities or the Coral albinos in Kahl's original strain of albinos. I hope to see some of these abarrent patterns show up in your albinos and to see what kind of coloration is in them. Again, best of luck with these; your persistance and hard work is being rewared and you certainly deserve it for your efforts over the years.
Bill

Jeff,

Your Ivories look great and with all your breeding knowlege I know these guys will be getting lighter and more thin lined in the future. To me the aneries are an exciting boa with alot of breeding opportunities ahead for all of us...later
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Richard -amazoa-

"Changes in behavior occur when the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change."