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Hi, does anyone here keep ruthveni? If so, can you post a picture showing the lime-green band outlines that I always read about, but can never see in books?

Is the green very bright? Does anyone line breed for more of it? A green-banded king snake -- that would be something to have.

thanks,
crocacutus

I have a pair of Amealco origin, and a pair of Tapalpa origin. To be honest with you, I have been looking for that very same thing. I look forward also to somebody pointing it out to me, because I have never recognized it myself either.
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Right -- the only ones I've seen personally have been albinos at expos, and of course its impossible to see in these. Maybe the green has disappeared in captive animals because of hybridization with alterna and thayeri?

crocacutus

I never saw the lime green outlines on the normal I had at one time several years ago. As far as green banding on a snake, some greeri have a very greenish tinge to their back ground coloration that is quite attractive IMO.

I guess it has already been explained, but I'll reiterate - the "green" is very subtle and hardly the reason why these snake are interesting. It isn't a "green-banded" snake. There can be a subtle, greenish tinge especially where the cream band meets the black. And it isn't bright.

Ruthveni crossed with other snakes are easy to spot - they do not look much like ruthveni - they look more like the snake crossed to.
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Mark

I know the green isn't bright or obvious, what I was saying that it would be cool if someone line-bred them to create a snake that had slightly wider green bands, so you wouldn't have to look closely to see it.

crocacutus

Yeah, I have barely noticed this very vague green tinged thin border in just a few specimens and pics in the past, and not at ALL in many others too. Even the one's that do tend to display this thin greenish border, it is something you REALLY have to look hard to discern. It is not something that really pops out at you at all from my experience, it is a very subtle thing at best from what I have ever seen.

~Doug
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There is even reference to the lime green color being an "illusion" in some texts.
:Mark
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>>Hi, does anyone here keep ruthveni? If so, can you post a picture showing the lime-green band outlines that I always read about, but can never see in books?
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>>Is the green very bright? Does anyone line breed for more of it? A green-banded king snake -- that would be something to have.
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>>thanks,
>>crocacutus

Let me work on some pictures......I have many over here....Some are Mr. Brown's and some are mine......

Some Ruthveni have "light" bands that are pale yellow/cream colored.....when these cream colored bands go through their ontogenetic change (speckling with gray/black) the yellowish looks green......

It is an "illusion" as Mark described in his post.....

Many thayeri hatch out with a cream yellow ground color......Later in life they speckle with gray giving them a green coloration.......
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John Lassiter
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Thanks -- no books I've seen have close-ups.

crocacutus