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"One of the defendants was Shawn Fay, was a Little League coach and was a co-owner of Regal Reptiles in Providence. Police searched his North Scituate home, found a number of exotic animals and condemned the home.

"There were two pythons, two ferrets, an alligator, scorpians and consistent with that many animals in such a small proximity. There was a lot of be concerned with regarding feces and filth in general," said Chief David Ranfall."

www2.turnto10.com/news/2010/aug/18/16/18-arrested-child-porn-charges-ri-ar-197815/

Look out -- there's an angry mob of villagers coming up the hill with torches in hand.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

I like the only one who was named in the article was the guy who had a few reptiles and was a co owner of a reptile store. Then when they named them all he was the only one who was listed as what business he was in. Like everyone else has only one problem they like child porn but this guy is really messed up he likes reptiles also and that is even worse!!!
Rob

Yes, I know. It's guilt by association. We all get tarred with the same broad brush. We are demonized and categorized with sexual deviants. Like the two go hand in hand.
Two other points -- 1) the guy hasn't been convicted of anything yet. 2) From what I gathered from the story, it scares me the way Big Brother pipes his way into our very personal refuges, enticing criminal behavior while collecting personal information to use as evidence against us. There are privacy issues, as well as entrapment issues involved here.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

I am not a genius or clairvoyant, but I think I know what happens next:
1. Animal Control finds snakes in plastic storage boxes and charges owner with animal cruelty and confiscates all animals, and trashes house in the process, and create a huge public spectacle in the neighborhood. Media hyenas sensationalize incident beyond anything believable and slander all exotic animal owners in the process.

2. Building inspector declares trashed house a neighborhood public health hazard unfit for habitation and orders it condemned and razed.

3. Animal control bills owner $250000 for maintaining his reptiles.

4. Owner has to liquidate all assets and goes broke paying for legal defense.

5. American Psychiatric Association declares reptile hoarding to be an epidemic psychiatric disorder associated with deviant sex, drugs, and miscellaneous criminal behavior.
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Does anyone have any additions or corrections?

Ignorant Public eat it up, hook line and sinker.
So sad our country is made up of Maury's and Jerry's kids.
So sad everyone considers the 6 month trade schools a "college education".
So sad we are continually more and more dependent on Public Assistance and charity.
We're about half way there to becoming the mindless drones of industry as a nation.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

will be our only source of animal protein once the humaniacs get their way! No animals for pets, service animals, food, clothing, or anything else. But, OTOH, I guess PEOPLE would be ok...

As I have said before I will be eating them and I will be chopping them into tiny, tiny , tiny bites sized pieces before I barbecue them.

So sad everyone considers the 6 month trade schools a "college education".

The shame of it is -- a traditional college education is further and further from the average Citizen's grasp, being so expensive now that only the wealthiest and most affluent American families can afford a four year degree.

jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

>>So sad everyone considers the 6 month trade schools a "college education".
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>>The shame of it is -- a traditional college education is further and further from the average Citizen's grasp, being so expensive now that only the wealthiest and most affluent American families can afford a four year degree.
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John,

Given that "progressives" have taken over academia, this may not be all that bad. Just consider who is behind all the hysteria/propaganda... a lot of them are PhD's, professors and other "highly educated" folk.

They're doing a very good job of insuring that inbred elitist mentality, too.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

The shame of it is -- a traditional college education is further and further from the average Citizen's grasp, being so expensive now that only the wealthiest and most affluent American families can afford a four year degree. ........................who in the hell would want one anymore? These days colleges are nothing more than left-wing indoctrination centers, Not to mention that when it comes to herpetology (oh...I'm sorry herpeteculture.) most of us run circles around the academics. Just look at the shining examples of academia we have studying the burms in the everglades.

I disagree with the opinion about colleges being "left wing" indoctrination centers. Left wing OR right wing "indoctrination" comes mostly from the parents long before the kids enter college. My daughter received 2 BSs from local 4 year colleges at the same time, and is now in her PhD program at FIU with one year of straight A's under her belt....and it's nice to know that her academics earned her a free ride there. I know that we couldn't have afforded a 5 year program there. And in some respects she's liberal, and in some, conservative.

I still remember when a "Liberal Arts" degree was a good thing

I can't quantitatively give an answer on this, but intuitively it just seems the mentality of the poor and the mentality of the wealthy are growing further and further apart.

There are more working poor than ever, ever dependent on social subsidies. The wealthy and well to do seem to control more and more economic power and continue to grow smaller and smaller as an overall percentage of the total population. The gulf widens. The cultures grow further and further apart.

My baseline for this thought is that of "Our Greatest Generation". They went to war. Won the peace. Came home. Went to college. Got degrees and provided for their families. They were regular people. They worked on their cars and their houses and such. Just normal approachable Joes. Not elitist. No big agenda. Just down to earth and practical. In the moment types. Middle class. Unfortunately, that family is now gone.

Now it's the working poor and chronically unemployed, ever dependent of government assistance and NGO charity. Low education. Low wage. Low skill work force. High rates for school dropout. High teen pregnancies. Single parents. The obese with lifelong health issues. Underachievers and under-performers with high costs for lifelong social maintenance and dependency. Forever obliged to suck on the teat of Government.

Just my opinion.

jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

They control nothing. Thrown a bone of appeasement from the Elite occasionally, just to keep them in line. The carrot and the stick. Sometimes it's riot control. Sometimes it's the illusion of social benefit and empowerment.

jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

http://ww.abc6.com/Global/story.asp?S=13015996

http://www.projo.com/news/content/SCITUATE_ANIMAL_HOUSE_08-19-10_N2JJP1F_v6.253bdb8.html

And just a 'heads up' as to "only the herp guy is named" ... as you dig through this - wear gloves - the local papers name the local people that have been arrested - there are more names out on the press-ether now - though Mr Fay does by a long shot get the lion's share of regional/national press.

respects
Wes

This case spread through the reptile community at Daytona, and it was well known before DB. There seems to be some truth to this one, and it may drag down some reptile associates of his.

"Finocchio said that despite the conditions he observed, and the crowded containers in which the animals were being housed — the snakes, he said, lived in a container that was one-third of the recommended national standards — Rhode Island regulations dealing with such matters are so weak that he could detect no violations in relation to the animals."

"...one third the recommended national standards..." Who's standards, HSUS?

Time t write some more ill conceived knee-jerk regulations.

jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

URL below.
Man to serve six years for assault...

.......It's a shame that the mom's boyfriend and the other guy didn't kill this creep by ripping him apart limb from limb. a very dull axe would have been quite effective as well. It would have saved a lot of money spent on incarcerating this piece of crap, and the boyfriend and his friend would have walked as there is not a decent human alive that would ever convict them for killing this creep.
I have to say just reading the small bit of that girls testimony in the article as to what this guy was doing made my skin crawl.......and that's pretty damn hard to do, I don't creep out that easily.

is it becoming a trend among pedophiles to acquire herp collections to entice children?