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I got this female out of Africa a few years ago... Last year i breed her to a Lesser Het Ivory and produced the girl below... She came out amazing! Im thinking the mom might be a fire??? Any guesses?

Mom:

Daughter

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Jon Dvoretz
Next World Exotics
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Could just be a nice Yellow Belly Lesser?
The mom does have the Fire look to her. Who knows.
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Josh Molone

The mom looks like a Pastel to me. Are her eyes two-toned like most Pastels? The daughter looks like a nice Pastel Lesser.
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Lincoln, NE
0.1 Pastel, 1.0 Pastel het Pied, 0.1 Pied, 0.1 Cinn, 1.0 Black Pewter, 1.0 Woma (hidden gene?), 0.1 Yellowbelly
2.0 Normals, 1.0 Thayeri, 0.1 Thayeri X Alterna, 0.1 crazy cat, 1.0 husband

Doesn't look like a pastel to me.

I think you need to breed her again !
Try a fire or a yb (even if she doesn't have the belly of one I think).

She might just be normal with nice genes or have something new.
What was in the clutch with that lesser ?
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I breed her to a Lesser Het Ivory... Honestly i was so busy with another company last year i didnt pay much attention... But there were lessers and het ivories, but nothing that resembled her... I think i just missed on more of her and the yb cross...

Ive had a Calico in with her this year, i think im gonna put in the Lesser Het Ivory again
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Jon Dvoretz
Next World Exotics
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The Hunters Guide to the Morphs
www.nextworldexotics.com/hg.htm

That is definitely not a pastel. I think we need to hear from Ember. As I remember correctly the petstore female he picked up that started his line looked a lot like that. I would vote fire or something along the same allele. That lesser combo is hot.

Can either of you explain why it is definitely not a Pastel?
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Lincoln, NE
0.1 Pastel, 1.0 Pastel het Pied, 0.1 Pied, 0.1 Cinn, 1.0 Black Pewter, 1.0 Woma (hidden gene?), 0.1 Yellowbelly
2.0 Normals, 1.0 Thayeri, 0.1 Thayeri X Alterna, 0.1 crazy cat, 1.0 husband

If it is a pastel, it's a really ugly one.

Does it have green eyes?
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Thanks for the replies =)

But she is definitely not a pastel...

Refer to the morph guide i made a few years ago, that should explain www.nextworldexotics.com/hg.htm

This should help

Jon
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Jon Dvoretz
Next World Exotics
www.nextworldexotics.com

The Hunters Guide to the Morphs
www.nextworldexotics.com/hg.htm

If you look at the second picture, you can obviously see it doesn't have green eyes. The belly pattern isn't like a pastel would be either. Not to mention, look at it. Have you ever looked at a pastel that even came close to resembling this snake? Look up pictures of adult fires, you will see it is way closer in comparison.
Will

I have seen an adult female Pastel that strongly resembles the mother snake. I have also seen the Mojave offspring said female produced which were really bright with more subtle blushing than you normally see of a Pastave.

So my vote is still an Ugly Pastel. Maybe one that will produce Super Uglies, sure, but still my vote.
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Lincoln, NE
0.1 Pastel, 1.0 Pastel het Pied, 0.1 Pied, 0.1 Cinn, 1.0 Black Pewter, 1.0 Woma (hidden gene?), 0.1 Yellowbelly
2.0 Normals, 1.0 Thayeri, 0.1 Thayeri X Alterna, 0.1 crazy cat, 1.0 husband

Im with you on this one.
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Josh Molone

get some pics of the mother you are referring to so we can compare it to the snake in question.

Again definitely not a pastel =)

Check this out it explains... www.nextworldexotics.com/hg.htm and hit the pastel link
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Jon Dvoretz
Next World Exotics
www.nextworldexotics.com

The Hunters Guide to the Morphs
www.nextworldexotics.com/hg.htm

Hi Jon, it's very nice what ever it is. Looks like a good year for you!!Chris
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Chris

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That goes for mother and daughter. Let me know if you ever want to sell either.
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Scott Hager
Red Barn Reptiles

Hey Scott!
If i hatch out more ill let ya know =) looks like your having a great year! Any luck with the Jackets?
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Jon Dvoretz
Next World Exotics
www.nextworldexotics.com

The Hunters Guide to the Morphs
www.nextworldexotics.com/hg.htm

Wow! She is gorgeous, whatever she is...love seeing the results of your special projects Jon!

Thanks! I thought she was a fire, now im not sure???
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Jon Dvoretz
Next World Exotics
www.nextworldexotics.com

The Hunters Guide to the Morphs
www.nextworldexotics.com/hg.htm