Reptile & Amphibian Forums

Welcome to kingsnake.com's message board system. Here you may share and discuss information with others about your favorite reptile and amphibian related topics such as care and feeding, caging requirements, permits and licenses, and more. Launched in 1997, the kingsnake.com message board system is one of the oldest and largest systems on the internet.

Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research
Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You

A Mundane Question

Shalomjeru Sep 04, 2010 07:54 PM

If y'all know me, sooner or later, you will hear me say, "The only dumb question, is the question not asked!" So here goes: I have asked this question of three different individuals and have received three differnt answers. What the heck does it mean to say a particular snake is a "Hybino?" Inquiring minds and the
Village Idiot, want to know!!!

Pat G-C

Replies (14)

ShadyLady Sep 04, 2010 08:18 PM

Hypomelanistic Albino. The snake is homozygous for both traits, however, will only express the albino trait. It could be bred to a snake that is het for both and produce hypos, albinos, hybinos and normals.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. LOL!
-----
----------------------------------------------------------
Amy Claiborne

Don't let them take your wasted time. J.T.

DMong Sep 04, 2010 08:27 PM

The term "hybino" simply means a snake is double homozygous(normally visually showing) both hypomelanism AND amelanism(albino). The hypomelanism is masked by the amelanism, so you do not "know" they are hybinos unless you bred certain known morphs that would guarantee this.

It isn't that they look any different at all, because they absolutely do not look any different than a normal amel. You cannot tell by looking at them at all, it is rather what you can produce with these known double homozygous animals that is the "big deal".

I have some possible amel/poss. hybino Hondurans right now, but I need to prove them out when they are old enough with certain breedings.

Hope that hepled clear things up for ya!

~Doug
-----
"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

DMong Sep 04, 2010 08:30 PM

I meant to say that I have amels/poss. hypo "hybinos"!, NOT poss.amels/poss hybinos!......arrgh!

~Doug
-----
"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

bluerosy Sep 04, 2010 08:36 PM

A Hybino is a Hypomelanistic x Amelanistic.

Problem is, depending on how you look at it, there are different Hypos and albinos named within herptocultural groups.

So a Lavender or T posotive amel is different from a T negative true albino. The hypomelanistic term is also thrown around quite loosly.

Bottom line, these names we make up for snakes are different within almost every different sub-cultural group of herpetoculturists. You have the cornsnake people, the Florida king group, Calif grouip, Ball Python group, Milksnake group, Rosy boa group etc etc.

10-12 thousand years later and we are still busy naming animals. Go figure?

Shalom
-----
www.Bluerosy.com

Jlassiter Sep 05, 2010 01:05 AM

>>A Hybino is a Hypomelanistic x Amelanistic.
>>
>>Problem is, depending on how you look at it, there are different Hypos and albinos named within herptocultural groups.
>>
>>So a Lavender or T posotive amel is different from a T negative true albino. The hypomelanistic term is also thrown around quite loosly.
>>
>>Bottom line, these names we make up for snakes are different within almost every different sub-cultural group of herpetoculturists. You have the cornsnake people, the Florida king group, Calif grouip, Ball Python group, Milksnake group, Rosy boa group etc etc.
>>
>>
>>10-12 thousand years later and we are still busy naming animals. Go figure?
>>
>>Shalom

Yep, but a lavender or t positive is a form of hypomelanism...not amelanisme...IMO......

Hybinos sometimes have red that is reduced to orangish.......
-----
John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

MESOZOIC Sep 04, 2010 08:40 PM

>>If y'all know me, sooner or later, you will hear me say, "The only dumb question, is the question not asked!" So here goes: I have asked this question of three different individuals and have received three differnt answers. What the heck does it mean to say a particular snake is a "Hybino?" Inquiring minds and the
>>Village Idiot, want to know!!!
>>
>>Pat G-C

A Hybino is a snake showing the hypo gene and the albino gene at the same time.
-----
www.mesozoicreptiles.com

Jlassiter Sep 05, 2010 01:06 AM

>>A Hybino is a snake showing the hypo gene and the albino gene at the same time.

Not possible to show reduced melanin and the absence of melanin at the same time......they only show the absence of melanin...phenotypically speaking......and prove out to be hypo as well.......
-----
John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

Shalomjeru Sep 05, 2010 04:40 AM

Thanks Y'all!!!! Now I can ponder greater things!!!! Ever wonder if Adam and Eve had Navels????? In the words of Milo, "Yup, that's a stumper!!!!"

Shalom Y'all!!!

Pat G-C
------
2 Chronicles 7:14

DMong Sep 05, 2010 08:50 AM

"Ever wonder if Adam and Eve had Navels?????"

LMAO!!,...too funny!

~Doug
-----
"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

a153fish Sep 05, 2010 09:06 AM

That's an easy one ha ha! What about, who did Cain and Abel marry? Huh? Or if a man speaks and there is no woman to hear him, is he still wrong?
-----
King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

DMong Sep 05, 2010 10:06 AM

.
-----
"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

bluerosy Sep 06, 2010 07:53 AM

Ever wonder if Adam and Eve had Navels?????

yes they did have navels. God created them with age. Just like the stars in heaven.
-----
www.Bluerosy.com

a153fish Sep 06, 2010 08:15 AM

What's age got to do with Navels. A navel is where you were connected to your mother in her womb. They had no mother, right?
-----
King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

DMong Sep 06, 2010 09:28 PM

......yeah, certainly not like Rainer or anyone else here has ever checked their bellies over personally!..HAHAA!!

See, they were also born with capes, loin clothes and swords too, ........the painting here is proof.

~Doug
Image
-----
"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Site Tools