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HEY EVREYONE...
I WAS REFERED TO KINGSNAKE BY A BUDDY AND IM INTERESTED IN BREEDING AND GETTING INTO THE BREEDING GAME AND START GETTING A GOOD BREEDING STOCK GOING. WHAT DO I NEED, WHAT TO USE, WHAT ARE THE STEPS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. THE HOW TO ON THIS GAME (I.E. ISOLATING GENES, TEMP CHANGES, WHEN TO BERRD AND WHEN NOT TO).

Read, Read, Read, and when you are done, read some more. There are LOTS of websites out there. What works for one person doesn't work for someone else. Read, read, read, and find what works for you.

Jason
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gabesexotics@yahoo.com

THANKS MAN.... IM NEW TO THE BREEDING THING. THE LAST GUY JUST BACIALLY TOLD ME NOT TO USE CAPS CAUSE IT DOSENT GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS, BUT THATS JUST THE WAY I TYPE. DO SUGEST ANY BOOKS WEBSITES OTHER FORUMS. IM OPEN TO ANYTHING

Jason
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jason.trott78@yahoo.com

And please, oh, please stop posting in all capitals! I appreciate your enthusiasm, but it is better displayed through your desire to learn more, not through the caps lock button.

Here is a good start to doing some reading:

The Complete Ball Python: A Comprehensive Guide to Care, Breeding and Genetic Mutations by Kevin McCurley
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/

Pythons of the World, Vol 2 by David G. Barker & Tracy M. Barker
http://www.vpi.com/

Care sheets:
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/CareBall.html
http://www.kingsnake.com/ballpythonguide/
http://www.vpi.com/publications/the_ball_python_care_sheet
http://www.anapsid.org/ball.html

Morph Guides:
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/nerd/index.php/ball-pythons/nerd-s-ball-python-collection.html
http://www.ballpython.com/page.php?page=morphs

Furthermore, many of the links of breeders above tend to have information about morphs, breeding, and Balls in general on their sites. They are also kinds of the "gods" of our hobby.
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Lincoln, NE
0.1 Pastel, 1.0 Pastel het Pied, 0.1 Pied, 0.1 Cinn, 1.0 Black Pewter, 1.0 Woma (hidden gene?), 0.1 Yellowbelly
2.0 Normals, 1.0 Thayeri, 0.1 Thayeri X Alterna, 0.1 crazy cat, 1.0 husband

THE ONLY REASON I TYPE IN CAPS LOCK IS CAUSE I HATE PROOF READING AND THIS IS MY WAY OF BEING LAZY ABOUT IT. SORRY IF I OFFENDED YOU WITH THE CAPSLOCK

yeah...... im gunna need you to go ahead and stop using caps lock now, all of us here at kingsnake will really appreciate it.
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www.bamreptiles.webs.com
www.facebook.com/bamreptiles

Thats my 'tapler
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Brian Hettinger
480 Pythons
Contact us

wewt, i was hoping someone would get the reference, good job
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www.bamreptiles.webs.com
www.facebook.com/bamreptiles

Lol!! yeah, that was great, yeah.
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Snakes
Lizards
Tortoises
Dogs
Cats
Fish
Horses
Teenagers
DH who puts up with it all

Out of curiosity, do you currently own any Ball Pythons, or other kinds of snakes? I'm just wondering what is inspiring your desire to start breeding them and what your background with snakes is. It's hard for us to give you advise when you haven't actually provided us with any background info as far as your current collection, setup, and experience level.

If you want to get into the "game" to make money then my advise is don't bother. Only the big breeders who have devoted their lives, not to mention hundreds of thousands of dollars, actually make decent money. Most of the rest of us are breaking even at best. This hobby works best if you are super passionate about ball pythons and if money is a secondary concern or not a concern at all.

If you have experience owning ball pythons, have fallen in love with the species as we all have, and are just now ready to take that next step, then welcome to the forum. This is a great place with lots of helpful people.

As for the caps, your logic makes NO sense. Your grammatical and spelling errors would stand out even more in all caps than they would in little letters so being lazy about proof reading is no reason to type in all caps. And I do have to toss in, if you are too lazy to type a few sentences in normal letters due to not wanting to spend time proofreading, then this hobby might not be for you, it's not a "lazy" hobby, it's a daily commitment and takes much much more time and effort than just typing a few sentences normally and proofreading them...
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Have you been hugged by your snake today?

Ball Pythons
1.1 Normals het Caramel (Edward & Bella)
0.1 Normal 66% ph Caramel (Rosalie)
0.1 Caramel (Bellatrix)
1.0 Hypo (Nick)
1.0 Honey Bee (Aragog)
0.1 Hypo Pastel (Nagini)
0.1 Spider 66% ph Hypo(Nymphadora)
1.1 Mojaves (Lucius & Renesme)
0.1 Pastel Lesser (Narcissa)
0.1 Pinstripe (Arwen)
1.0 Pewter (Salazar)
0.1 Bumble Bee (Alice)
0.1 Lemonblast (Luna)
0.1 Blond Pastel (Katie)
1.0 Bell Pastel (Jasper)
0.1 African Dinker (Esme)
0.1 Normal (Madame Olympe Maxime)
0.3 Normal Babies 66% ph Caramel (Edward x Bella)
2.1 Pastel "Dinker" Babies (Jasper x Esme)

Corns
1.1 Normals het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo (Romeo & Juliet)
1.0 Blizzard het Diffused (Tumnus)
0.1 Anery Lavender het Amel (Lucy)
0.1 Plasma (Victoria)
0.1 Opal (Jewel)
0.0.22 Babies (Romeo x Juliet)
0.0.18 Babies (Tumnus x Lucy)

Hogs
1.0 Albino Western (Hogwarts)
0.1 het Albino Western (Hufflepuff)
0.1 Tri Color (Molly)

I agree with SlytherLyn, but I'm too lazy with forum participation to type it myself!
- Paul

Welcome to the forum...you'll find a wide range of knowledge and skill here. Again, read as much as you can...first! Once you think you have the knowledge base, then get your set up ready...including tools, caging and balanced temps ready before you purchase any animals. Last, purchase the morphs that you are most interested in keeping/creating. Having one morph of everything might be the best solution. I would suggest targeting one or two morphs at first then branch out once you have your feet wet. In other words, draw out a short term, mid-range and long range plans. Some project can take years (maybe the better part of a decade) before you ever seen results. And by that time, many have lost interest. I'm still trying to produce my first recessive morph (het albino poss het snow X normals)and it's been 4 breeding seasons with no results. I've been taking the long road on this project just to do it.

Oh, about the all caps...some freak out about it...but I take it that you might think we are "hard of reading"...groan.

W. Smith

Markus Jayne has a great crash course

www.ballpython.ca/gallery/breeding.htm

And to the OP, everyone in here would rather you make a few typos than yell at them internet style.
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www.jasonrbartolettreptiles.webs.com

www.worldofballpythons.com

good list of morphs.
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Teresa
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3.0 Dogs (2.0 Chihuahuas, 1.0 Toy Poodle)
1.5 Cats
1.0 Cockatiel
1.0 Indonesian Blue tongue skink

Ball Pythons
0.1 100% Het Albino (Watson)
1.0 Pastel (Sweets)
0.1 Spider (Daisy)
1.0 Albino

........buy and read ,and reread....''Keeping and Breeding Pythons and Boas''-- By Richard Ross....old book...teaches you to breed, not to look at pretty pics of morhs...it was written before shows and before balls came in any color besides brown....

....even the old book Kingsnakes and Milksnakes by Ron Markel will teach you alot.....

....yes...buy the first Barker book on Australian pythons too....

then...for kicks...buy the other stuff.......LOL.....

pretty pictures- pretty pictures....
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................JY