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I have some WC Polk County Corns that exhibit some appearance to bloodreds. The Original Female was gravid and one of the babies looked very interesting so I kept it. This year that baby which was a male was old enough to breed back to his mom. All the babies look very interesting but the best looking one hatched so tiny I have to give him fuzzy tails to eat. Here are a couple pics of it. Don't know the sex yet cause it's so small I am afraid to pop it or probe it, lol.

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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

Either it is as small as you say, or you have some sort of growth hormone problem with your hands!!

Does it eat the tails willingly, or do you have to force feed it?
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Kent

0.1 Hypomelanistic striped cornsnake
0.0.3 Hypo (het lavender, striped) cornsnake hatchlings
0.0.5 Normal (het hypo, lavender, striped) cornsnake hatchlings
1.2 Gray-banded kingsnakes, blairs phase
1.1 Oregon rubber boas

But not that big ha ha! I hope this little guy does ok.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

>>I have some WC Polk County Corns that exhibit some appearance to bloodreds. The Original Female was gravid and one of the babies looked very interesting so I kept it. This year that baby which was a male was old enough to breed back to his mom. All the babies look very interesting but the best looking one hatched so tiny I have to give him fuzzy tails to eat. Here are a couple pics of it. Don't know the sex yet cause it's so small I am afraid to pop it or probe it, lol.
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>>King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
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looks like a bloodred
it's definitely small.
And this is the product of a wild caught female that was gravid bred back to her own offspring from that original clutch??
cool!!!
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Jorge, you definitely got SOMETHING going on with those Polks for sure man. If not diffusion, some type of hypomelanism? Defintely something, and not a bad thing LOL!!!

The F-1 clutches from these guys look pretty good. It will be interesting what will pop out in future line breedings.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

Here's mom when she was gravid.

Here's the Dad/Son.

Here is a sibling female from last year that looks like the Dad. I'll probably mate her with her Dad next year.

Here are the rest of this years clutchmates.

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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

Wow, what awesome babies, especially love the runt. Very interesting project you have going. Congrats! Curious what will happen when you get enough of them to start putting them with other morphs to see how the genes interact.

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Have you been hugged by your snake today?

Ball Pythons
1.1 Normals het Caramel (Edward & Bella)
0.1 Normal 66% ph Caramel (Rosalie)
0.1 Caramel (Bellatrix)
1.0 Hypo (Nick)
1.0 Honey Bee (Aragog)
0.1 Hypo Pastel (Nagini)
0.1 Spider 66% ph Hypo(Nymphadora)
1.1 Mojaves (Lucius & Renesme)
0.1 Pastel Lesser (Narcissa)
0.1 Pinstripe (Arwen)
1.0 Pewter (Salazar)
0.1 Bumble Bee (Alice)
0.1 Lemonblast (Luna)
0.1 Blond Pastel (Katie)
1.0 Bell Pastel (Jasper)
0.1 African Dinker (Esme)
0.1 Normal (Madame Olympe Maxime)
0.3 Normal Babies 66% ph Caramel (Edward x Bella)
2.1 Pastel "Dinker" Babies (Jasper x Esme)

Corns
1.1 Normals het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo (Romeo & Juliet)
1.0 Blizzard het Diffused (Tumnus)
0.1 Anery Lavender het Amel (Lucy)
0.1 Plasma (Victoria)
0.1 Opal (Jewel)
0.0.22 Babies (Romeo x Juliet)
0.0.18 Babies (Tumnus x Lucy)

Hogs
1.0 Albino Western (Hogwarts)
0.1 het Albino Western (Hufflepuff)
0.1 Tri Color (Molly)

Well Since I live where these snakes are found I have quite a few of them. One was actually found in a kitchen drawer by my wife. That's a funny story, but I have paired them up in similar looking groups. One group or pair look very Caramel or Amber. So I have been line breeding them for that look. The one found in my kitchen has what I call a rusty peach look to it. So I have him with one of his daughters. That strain also shows many smaller saddles than normally seen in Corns so that is another property that I choose when picking breeders. One thing they all seem to have in common is that they are very Hypo-ish looking, which intensifies with only one generation. There is one large male that I found on my way to work one day that has larger saddles and looks somewhat like an Okeetee. So I bred him to one of my Abbott females and all the babies resulted in snakes that look better than either of the parents, in my opinion.Here is a pic of the WC male top left and my Abbott female bottom left, and one of their offspring in the center. Below that picture is the pair that look caramel-ish.

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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

He has gotten a bit darker over the years but as a juvie he had a very peach color to him.

Here is one of his offspring this year.

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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

and by no means expert thought (LOL), I am wondering if you are seeing some type of dominant gene at work here? Reason I say this is the dramatic reduction in the black borders exhibited by the offspring of the Polk male x Abbott female. Granted the male doesnt have as thick black borders as the Abbott female, but he has some black bordering happening. You would think by pairing him to the thicker bordered female you would get an intermediate bordered or more "classic" looking corn. However, you got the female that is MUCH lighter/brighter in coloration than either parent, and pretty much COMPLETE absence of bordering. Since the odds of both COMPLETELY unrelated parents being het for the same type of recessive gene, I kind of conclude the polk corn genes may be exhibiting a dominant gene affect. Of course, I could be way off course and am still pondering why the wild caught populations in your area dont look more like the cross offspring!! Could it be possible the WC population has some type of mechanism or gene to "turn off" this hypo like dominant gene that is lost when outbred to other populations??

There is definately something going on. The babies did vary a little bit there was one female that looked a little more normal but still showed that brightening effect. Here are some of the ones I kept.





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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

Now those look more in line with what I would expect from that cross. Dude, you got something wacky and cool going on for sure!!

HAHAHAA!!,....it's the big scary bloodred MONSTER!!

Wow!, that is one tiny little dude there Jorge..LMAO!

that is interesting as all heck dude!! That looks to be a bonified bloodred,....good side suffusion, plain belly, weird gray head and ALL!. That sucker should get much redder as it matures too, but that is only if he does stay alive and thrive. Which I surely hope he does bro, that is very cool to see that popping out of a seemingly normal W/C clutch. But hey, that's how Eddie Leach did it too!..LOL!

good luck with it Jorge!

~Doug
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