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Colored Bellies Normal?

PHLdyPayne Sep 10, 2010 03:20 PM

After reading a153fish's post (couple threads down) and seeing the parents of the little blood like baby he produced, I realized my female corn looks very similar to his and this prompted some questions.

When I originally received this normal female (later proved to be het anery) from her previous owner, she was about 3 years old and purchased from a breeder down in the US. I don't think I have ever posted decent if any pictures of her (she's a big snake, about 5' long and loves to explore so its hard to get all of her into a picture). I bred her to an Okeeteeish male and produced anery offspring (hence why I knew she was het anery...and well he was too but I have since sold him). But I did notice the underbelly looks alot like a153fish's snakes he posted below. I kind of thought that looked odd..as I don't recall the male having the same 'bleeding' of red in the last half of the body's underside. Maybe this is normal, as I can't remember seeing too many bellies of normal adults so thought I will take a few minutes, post her here and see what the experts say.

I definitely know for sure she's het anery, other than that I always considered her a normal corn snake.

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Replies (6)

a153fish Sep 10, 2010 04:11 PM

Well many from Central Florida have a similar looking belly. I also have a couple pure Abbott Okeetees that have it a little bit. Not as pronounced though. Remember the Bloodred was comprised of snakes from with certain attributes to create the Bloodred we all know. I believe all the stock came from central Florida area. I'm sure someone else here can give more details.
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DMong Sep 10, 2010 04:25 PM

Yeah, they originated from a guy named Eddie Leach that line bred snakes from Hastings, Florida in northestern Florida. Then he passed them on to the Love's who then coined the term "bloodreds".

~Doug
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DMong Sep 10, 2010 04:16 PM

That is a really nice looking corn there Amy!

Well, the reddish/orange bellies on corns, especially the last 2/3rd's of many corns is pretty typical to see actually. So I don't see anything spectacular morph-wise because it displays that belly coloration. But there is certainly no denying it is very nicely colored.

I like that one alot!

~Doug
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tspuckler Sep 10, 2010 06:07 PM

As the other who've posted said, an infusion of red on the belly of a snake that normally has red pigment isn't that unusual. This would be espicially true of bloodreds which exhibit hypererythrism (excess red pigment).

In April I was in California and I caught this especially red Coast Garter Snake:

Although they normally have plain, white ventrals, this one's looked like this:

This is typical of Coast Garters with an excessive infusion of red pigment, though these variants are typically found only in certain locales.

More "normal" Coast Garters look like this:

Tim

DMong Sep 10, 2010 06:20 PM

That hypererythristic garter is WAY COOL Tim!!

Both were excellent scores!

Bet Scott Felzer wouldn't mind having that one, huh?. Every time I see a garter morph, he is the first thing that pops into mind..LOL! I know he has about every single type of Garter morph there is, and THEN some!

~Doug
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PHLdyPayne Sep 11, 2010 05:33 AM

Thanks for the info. I didn't have any expectations the belly of my normal het anery signified anything special...though I wondered if she came from stock that originated in areas where this is common...

She's a great snake and I definitely like her large size...makes my snow corn seem so undersized...being only a little over three feet.
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