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Here are Carricks measurements if they help you any.

His daddy is pure german giant, and his mother a gold phase dragon.

here are his measurements as of this morning after his bathroom break

538 grams
18 1/8 inches
girth - 9inches
girth of tail base - 4 1/8 inches
head from nose to base of head - 2 3/4 inches
girth of head (around the thickest part)- 6 3/4 inches

i took all the measurements i could think of.. hehe.. probably some that are of no use at all but thought i might as well measure everything while i was there..

i also have a confession to make.. sigh.. here goes.. we have known for a long while that carrick, my boy.. is actually .. a girl.. ok there i admitted it. he was sold to me as a male, always thought of him as a male, i never even thought about it as i wasnt thinking of breeding. then a few months back i thought, well wonder if carrick maybe could father some babies for someone, that would be great, so of course i thought, well better check his sex, and then double check again, and again and no matter how hard i tried, there were no buldges, although i think i imagined they were there at times. i know i know, no big deal, but to me its like thinking your kid is a boy for over a year to just find they are a girl, i just never thought to really look until a few months ago i suppose, i think i peeked before and thought, hrmm... he doesnt show real well. i had seen other males that didnt have very obvious bulges, thought maybe that was it, but its not, he doesnt have any at all. anyhow.. so carrick is a she, but feel free to refer to carrick as he still.. we do good name we chose i guess, Carrick - dweller on the rocky cape, at least its good for either so im a big idiot....
heres a bunch of pictures of Carrick Bug

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reiko
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Rea she is still beautiful!!! HAHAHA I had to laugh at all the times I imagined how my Candy and your carricks babies would turn out, lol. Now I get to imagine Foster and Carricks babies Either way whatever Carrick is lol he/she has to be one of the nicest looking dragons I've seen. Gees that must be weird for you. I couldn't imagine if Foster turned out to be a female, lol.
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Mystical Dragons

i have known for awhile now, but i was in denial, not that i love him any less, its just that its strange. we still call carrick a he around here, i dont think Carrick minds
i checked his sex when he was much younger, and again at 6 months and i didnt really think much of it, but then when i was thinking about him fathering some babies it occured to me to check again and really look this time, and well, "they" just werent there.. lol.. o well.. still love our Bug
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reiko
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We ALL know Buffy is female... especially since I have been plastering the board with pictures of her hatchlings LOL

Well, she was sold to me as a young female. At 16 months I checked her sex again and also had someone else check because she ALWAYS had a black beard and VERY male behaviour. Sure enough, she had two bulges and I thought "oh man noooo, she is a he" LOL

I decided to list "him" for sale a few weeks later. I posted the ad on all the classified sites, turned around from the pc and Cheyenne was mating with Buffy. I was shocked! I thought "whoa wait a minute, either Cheyenne is Gay or Buffy really is a female" LOL

Needless to say, I turned right back around and removed all the ads I had just posted listing "him" for sale lol and today we have the results of that day

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Lisa
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we have a bunch of he shes or she hees.. o my.. i really have not had anyone else look at carrick, im pretty confident about sexing but he really has me baffled, i swear there were times i saw slight bulges but i think it was my imagination.. ah well.. maybe someone will see him in person someday and have a peek although i think im correct in thinking female. He blackens his beard also, bobs so hard he jumps up and down. i duno.. will just have to see i suppose. at lest it looks as though i am not alone

>>We ALL know Buffy is female... especially since I have been plastering the board with pictures of her hatchlings LOL
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>>Well, she was sold to me as a young female. At 16 months I checked her sex again and also had someone else check because she ALWAYS had a black beard and VERY male behaviour. Sure enough, she had two bulges and I thought "oh man noooo, she is a he" LOL
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>>I decided to list "him" for sale a few weeks later. I posted the ad on all the classified sites, turned around from the pc and Cheyenne was mating with Buffy. I was shocked! I thought "whoa wait a minute, either Cheyenne is Gay or Buffy really is a female" LOL
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>>Needless to say, I turned right back around and removed all the ads I had just posted listing "him" for sale lol and today we have the results of that day
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>>Lisa
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You know what else.... after that he/she debate I changed my policy on my site. I used to say "sex not guaranteed on hatchlings and young dragons under 3 months of age" It now says 6 months... that gives me a little extra time to say ok it's male, nope it's female and then back to nope it's male again LOL
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Lisa
www.beginnersbasics.com

it can be hard to tell, recently i went to pick out a dragon for matt here in california to have send to new jersey, i went through about 2 dozen dragons, was looking for a female, at that age it wasnt very obvious and had to look again and again to be sure, in the end we narrowed it down to 2 females out of those we thought female that had the best color, it was difficult and there was 3 of us at the end to give the final opinion that it was a female, many young ones are very difficult to tell, and then there is my lil male Daigh, hes as male as it gets, from the start you could tell and from here on in its gotten more and more obvious.
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reiko
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Well, looking at this picture... would you say Male or female? LOL

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Lisa
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that looks male to me.. definate 2 bulges...is that buffy? lol
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reiko
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errrrrrrrr YUP!

It looks male, it acts male and yet it lays eggs and they hatch out beautiful LOL

SHE must be a mutant or something LMAO

That was taken when I had the big male / female debate at around 16 months old. I sent that picture to soooooooooo many breeders via email it's not even funny.

She looks very much female underneath now... strange.

>>that looks male to me.. definate 2 bulges...is that buffy? lol
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Lisa
www.beginnersbasics.com

what an invasion of Privacy!!!
I'll try to post of pic of My Pat's Butt this weekend and see if anyone can guess!
Sounds like the name of a rock band....My Pat's Butt
Sharla
(ps...i'd say male)

lisa, thats just weird and Sharla, thats just too funny LOL, you guys got me laughing this morning for sure

>>what an invasion of Privacy!!!
>>I'll try to post of pic of My Pat's Butt this weekend and see if anyone can guess!
>>Sounds like the name of a rock band....My Pat's Butt
>>Sharla
>>ps...i'd say male)
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Reiko....that's an interesting story. VERY similar to my ordeal with my big GG x Orange Glow male, Smoke. Sold to me as a male at a young age, has grown like a hurricane, @ 2 years old & 560 grams now & I can't tell what he is! No bulges, no black beard, no interest in anything at all but eating. I even took him over to JoelR's house (in a doggie carrier) for him to check him out....he lifted his tail and said some things I can't repeat! He couldn't tell what he is.
SO, we'll assume he is a she until proven otherwise.
Joel does think we should rename him PAT....like the Pat on Saturday Night Live!
poor little dragon :-]

Sharla

thats how i feel! i have admitted he is female to myself but still every time i have him out i take a look, hehe, like maybe today there will be bulges, i turn his tail in different lights looking for shadows, im an idiot LOL, so i am in the same boat as you, female until proven otherwise. Carrick did show male behaviours with my female Gobi, but they could just be dominant or aggressive female behaviours too, some females are known for it. we just always assumed carrick was a he, kinda funny lol poor dragon, no Pat jokes! dont want this to catch on with our poor dragons do we Sharla?! lol

>>Reiko....that's an interesting story. VERY similar to my ordeal with my big GG x Orange Glow male, Smoke. Sold to me as a male at a young age, has grown like a hurricane, @ 2 years old & 560 grams now & I can't tell what he is! No bulges, no black beard, no interest in anything at all but eating. I even took him over to JoelR's house (in a doggie carrier) for him to check him out....he lifted his tail and said some things I can't repeat! He couldn't tell what he is.
>>SO, we'll assume he is a she until proven otherwise.
>>Joel does think we should rename him PAT....like the Pat on Saturday Night Live!
>>poor little dragon :-]
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>>Sharla
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At least you didn't mistake the sex with a cat, like we did. That was bad!! The people we got our cats from said they were females. I didn't doubt them and never checked, although it is harder to miss on mammals. But as the 'girls' grew, I kept calling one of them "my boy" as he had that slinky big male cat walk. I was informed by my hubby that I should not call her a "boy" all the time. Well, took the "girls" in to get them fixed, and the vet gave me a look like I'm an idiot and informed me one was a boy. So, Phoebe became Phoebus.

What sex is daigh? heehee.

i have a cat, it used to be my boyfriends brothers cat, i adopted it as it became a stray. i looked at the cat and said, ya know, that cats a female... no no no everyone said, "it had its n**'* cut" i said nope,thats a female, for 8 years they said this cat was a male, i took it to the vet for all its shots etc, they listed it as male, the vet said to me, you sure this cat is a male, sure looks female to me.. i could alwyas feel the scar tissue where she was spayed on her tummy.

lol thats a funny story Eva, good thing ya didnt get kittens, or were they fixed before ya got them?

Daigh is ALLLL male hes a little weirdo too, getting pastel coloring, i dont know what is going on with his color, hes fading out to pastel, hehe.. gonna be a weird dragon, i think hes gonna be huge tho!

>>At least you didn't mistake the sex with a cat, like we did. That was bad!! The people we got our cats from said they were females. I didn't doubt them and never checked, although it is harder to miss on mammals. But as the 'girls' grew, I kept calling one of them "my boy" as he had that slinky big male cat walk. I was informed by my hubby that I should not call her a "boy" all the time. Well, took the "girls" in to get them fixed, and the vet gave me a look like I'm an idiot and informed me one was a boy. So, Phoebe became Phoebus.
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>>What sex is daigh? heehee.
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oops! well, you know carrick is being loved

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>>lol thats a funny story Eva, good thing ya didnt get kittens, or were they fixed before ya got them?

nope, no kittens, we had the kitties spayed and neutered. what is even worse in us not realizing his sex is that the kittens are 1/2 manx and neither of them had any tails. you would think we would of noticed the ba!!s hanging from the male. i mean there was no tail to obscure the view. i guess it goes to show you that we don't make a habbit of looking at THAT area. lol.

>>Daigh is ALLLL male hes a little weirdo too, getting pastel coloring, i dont know what is going on with his color, hes fading out to pastel, hehe.. gonna be a weird dragon, i think hes gonna be huge tho!

just curious, how often do you take the kids out for real sun?

Luc is big, he has no GG in him, he is weighing around 630 grams and about 22-23 inches. ahhh, luc and carrick will make HUGE babies. j/k

well i would love to have some of carricks offspring if she were to be bred, but would have to find the right male and the right person to raise the babies, i know of a few, but they are so far away, matt has a male that would be just perfect, but hes all the way in jersey.. bummer.. o well.. guess we will have to see
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Foster and I would love to go on a California Vacation, lol. I would give Foster a vacation he would never forget I'm sure he would come home bragging, lol. He's just about as ready as he ever will be, but he is getting kinda in a funk. I can tell that he will brumate soon. Actually 4 out of my 5 adults are showing signs of slowing down. Guess they can really sense the weather and light changes cause their temps have not changed at all, but I did cut a half hour off their light period. Seems Foster will be ready for some spring babies Hope Candy or Anna is ready for him Your story had me going around and double checking sexes lol. Reaya is female for sure. She faked me out the first time I looked I thought she was male
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Mystical Dragons

carrick went down yesterday.. first year brumating, gonna miss the lil bug! well perhaps next year we will have to do that matt Carrick will be 2 in the spring, just right, and foster is the perfect male for certian. Foster and Candy are gonna have beautiful babies, i really hope those two hit it off, shes the best orange dragon i have seen, shes florecent, just beautiful, and a big girl too! well matt perhaps we can arrange something im so glad that reaya came out alright and is a female also, we sexed her the best we could, she was quite the small thing, so its hard, but we made our best educated guess have any new pics of the lil girl? should post all your dragons sometime, they are all so beautiful

>>Foster and I would love to go on a California Vacation, lol. I would give Foster a vacation he would never forget I'm sure he would come home bragging, lol. He's just about as ready as he ever will be, but he is getting kinda in a funk. I can tell that he will brumate soon. Actually 4 out of my 5 adults are showing signs of slowing down. Guess they can really sense the weather and light changes cause their temps have not changed at all, but I did cut a half hour off their light period. Seems Foster will be ready for some spring babies Hope Candy or Anna is ready for him Your story had me going around and double checking sexes lol. Reaya is female for sure. She faked me out the first time I looked I thought she was male
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Woo hoo and fun too... I can't wait for Daytona again!!!!

I felt cheated this year as I was so tied up with babies and did nto get to spend the time I wanted to with everyone. So... we'll just have to party twice as much next year

Carrick has always been one of my favorite beardies on this board...

i have one question... who was the breeder of carrick again??

and yes I want a carrick baby ! put me on the list

I want a Carrick baby too

>>Carrick has always been one of my favorite beardies on this board...
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>>i have one question... who was the breeder of carrick again??
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>>and yes I want a carrick baby ! put me on the list
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Lisa
www.beginnersbasics.com

someone better get to breeding and raising some carrick babies cause i dont have any room! lol
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n/p
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TheClassyLizard

there are a few breeders that i would trust carrick to but everyone is soooo far away! argh..
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You have her mated when she's ready, let me know when she lays and I'll drive over and pick of the eggs....I'm only 5 hours away.....lol....anytime....even if she multiple clutches, I'll drive back.......lol
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Tracey
Tracey's Beardies
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TheClassyLizard

np
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Tracey
Tracey's Beardies
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besides, I got christy's rocking chair here and she's gonna woop a$$ on the rednecks that don't take kindly to lizards

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proud mama to:
1.0.0 ball python (mr snake),0.0.1 albino florida kingsnake (CK),1.1.0 leopard gecko (sebastian and vilma),0.1.0 colombian rainbow boa (luce),1.1.1 bearded dragon (kaipo, dulce, and kellen), 1.1.0 colombian redtailed boas (adam and eve)

we will see what next spring brings i would love to have some babies from Carrick, so ill have to have what, 5 new enclosures next year? and thats just from babies im planning on getting, one from mattman, one from chris, one from brandon and one from carricks breeder and well maybe one of carricks babies, a girl can always dream ya know gonna be a full house, will have to kick out the boyfriend! i best get to working on those stackable melamine enclosures quick!
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you silly girl, youre supposed to put the boyfriend to work!
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proud mama to:
1.0.0 ball python (mr snake),0.0.1 albino florida kingsnake (CK),1.1.0 leopard gecko (sebastian and vilma),0.1.0 colombian rainbow boa (luce),1.1.1 bearded dragon (kaipo, dulce, and kellen), 1.1.0 colombian redtailed boas (adam and eve)

i dont think he will stand for it! he said if i get rid of the birds (which isnt gonna happen) but we shall see, so far i have 2 parrots, 3 dragons, a cat and a horse, and the horse was the only one he didnt say NO to.. hehehe.. thats cause i already owned him before i met my guy hes not all that bad, loves the animals but refuses to be enslaved to them like i am.. what can i say, i just love all my critters
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a year!! The breeder said she was, so I was like you Reiko, wasn't breeding so it didn't matter, didn't really look. Well, we call her Slimmy now, it's about as fem as we can make SlimShady sound...lol
But man! If you should ever breed Carricka Lynn..lol
What a gold mine!!
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TheClassyLizard

well i really would like to find someone close that i could trust, otherwise someone far that i could trust but also i would have to drive there.. i just havnt the room for it, i would love to, but if i did it i want to do it right and under the right conditions, our place is too small to raise all those babies.. but we may be buying a house before christmas. so we will have to see

>>a year!! The breeder said she was, so I was like you Reiko, wasn't breeding so it didn't matter, didn't really look. Well, we call her Slimmy now, it's about as fem as we can make SlimShady sound...lol
>>But man! If you should ever breed Carricka Lynn..lol
>>What a gold mine!!
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LOL I know exactly how you feel, thought all this time Splatt was Male but after closer inspection a month or so ago, I saw that he was a female. Fortunately Splatt is a gender neutral name so no need to change her name. She's growing to be a big girl, weighed her today and she weighed in at 300g and is 17" long nose to tail tip. She has a good girth on her (though I didn't think to measure it) and a nice fat tail so is very well fed. Certainly poos alot even if its only been every other day lately.

Now that I know she is female, will have to watch to see if she decides to develop infertile eggs...hopefully she won't till the spring (if she decides to bermate that is). Will deal with that if it happens.

around it or across from point to point?

NICe size beardie for a girl especially

totally around the wide part of the head, i cann measure from point to point for ya if you want, carrick is down for the count, i dont even think she would notice.. hehe.. gonna miss the bug ah well, will be up again in a short while i imagine
thanks Cheri
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