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what a difference a year makes

DMong Sep 11, 2010 10:14 PM

Here is that strange sort of "milksnake" looking corn that I hatched last year from a hypo lavender x wild-caught female. Tim Spuckler remembers this one, because he also commented that it resembled a king/milk pattern.

And the same snake now......he certainly turned on more orange and red as they typically do. I rather like his large bold blotches, and clean background coloration too.


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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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Replies (11)

mrkent Sep 12, 2010 12:57 AM

Wow! Makes me look forward to seeing what these look like in a year.

I wish I had taken pics of Mom when she was a baby.
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Kent

0.1 Hypomelanistic striped cornsnake
0.0.3 Hypo (het lavender, striped) cornsnake hatchlings
0.0.5 Normal (het hypo, lavender, striped) cornsnake hatchlings
1.2 Gray-banded kingsnakes, blairs phase
1.1 Oregon rubber boas

DMong Sep 12, 2010 11:21 AM

Kent,....those are some really nice blotch patterns on those youngsters, and I really like the little hypo there too!

Those will no doubt be great looking snakes when they mature.

Start taking age progression shots of those to blow us away with later on!..LOL!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

a153fish Sep 12, 2010 06:09 PM

Those should turn out pretty nice too! Give us some before and after pics when they mature some.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

tspuckler Sep 12, 2010 04:00 PM

That's a great example of how much corns can change. It looks like it didn't keep the "buckskin" background color that was part of the look of "milksnake phase" corns "back in the day," but I'm still digging those large blotches.

Tim

DMong Sep 12, 2010 04:50 PM

Yeah Tim, I agree. I really liked that creamy bukskin background he first had too, but I am still very happy with the way he turned out of course. He is also pretty "hypo-ish" looking too which I wasn't really expecting from looking at him as a hatchling either. But like you said, that is really all part of the fun with corns and some other types, they change so darn drastically with age..LOL!

He will be bred to his much darker red sib that is also double het for hypo lavender, that way I will have two different hypo lavender bloodlines here. Then later on I will attempt to prove the hypo/het lav./poss. het anery to indeed be anery(or not) so I can later look into producing some nice lavender ghosts in the future too.

later, ~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

a153fish Sep 12, 2010 06:02 PM

That is a nice looking corn Doug! He would go nicely with one of my Polkeetees. But since he's got the lavender genes pairing him with a sibling should give some cool results!
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

DMong Sep 12, 2010 11:31 PM

Yeah, it would be nice to see what the two sibs produce for sure. You youself might be doing that very breeding with these one day..LOL!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

denbar Sep 12, 2010 06:04 PM

Wow. That snake really blossomed! What does the belly look like?
Do you not think it really is hypo instead of "hypo-ish"?

-- Dennis

DMong Sep 13, 2010 12:40 AM

Ya know, that is a great question, and one I have been seriously wondering about lately myself. When I look at him, I see lots of grayish brown remnants that don't look black at ALL, but then there are a few specks here and there that do.

His belly is actually just as light, if not lighter than a totally full-blown killer hypo female I have here. What is really bizarre though, I cannot say that I have ever seen a genetically recessive hypo start out of the egg quite that dark looking though like in the pic in my above post.

This guy is a really tough call man. I would have to test breed it to a strait up known hypo that is not het for any of his like genes to really prove if he is or not without a doubt. Most animals are much easier for me to say one way or the other by looking at them, but this guy really has me scratching my head as to if he is truly a genetic recessive hypo, or just doesn't have much black so it is easier to see into along with the red/orange. Every time I look at him closely with my naked eye, I keep thinking he is a true hypo that just happened to pop out of the clutch.....weird! The photo makes his blotch borders look much darker than they actually are too, which doesn't help any, and I just took him out again and could almost swear he is a definite hypo..LOL!......weird!. Guess I will know later on sometime in the future.

And here is his super dark red wild-caught Orland Fla. mother.
All the other 19 babies "seemed" normal too.., but they are all gone now except the dark female sib to this one above, and she definitely isn't anything close to being hypomelanistic. She looks pretty dark red like the mother below.


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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

denbar Sep 13, 2010 09:48 AM

It's a good looking corn at any rate. I have a similar situation with one of mine from up here in North Fl. I have a nice animal I am convinced is a hypo that popped out of some second generation animals from a WC female that I caught while gravid. It was semi dark when I grabbed her off the road. She laid eggs that night and I now have one of her offspring left and several grandkids. At any rate last year there were several with light brown belly checkers and this one I kept is really nice in disposition and appearance. Even my 78 year old mom held her last visit. I'm looking forward to breeding her in the future. I am having a problem w/computer preventing me from posting pictures, but will when I am able.

-- Dennis

DMong Sep 13, 2010 12:19 PM

Cool!,...I would love to see it when you can post a pic!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

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