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Wow, just had this info pointed out to me....

Per Robert Seib...

"These are EBV line hypos. They were produced from breeding 2 male and 3 female double het hypo-anerys that were produced in 2005. Mike Lockwood and I collaborated using my anery and his hypo. 5 years later I have 3 clutches from my split of the offspring.

The anery gene did not prove out to be recessive, however. It's complex, and we don't understand it....."

Is this new news that the Seib line Anery BRB is not recessive as it was thought to be?
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Very interesting Dave... but why is it that when breeding Anerys with normals and other Anerys that it behaves as a recessive gene? Anery x Normal = hets, Anery x Anery = Anery. Why is it that when the Hypo gene is introduced that genes get wacky?

Or am I misunderstanding? Are you saying that the Seib line and Sharp lines may be separate forms of the gene?
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Aubrey Ross

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www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

Aubrey,
i think we need to wait for Mike or Robert to chime in. But from what i have read, and its the same source as Dave. It appears that Robert is saying that the gene is not acting as a recessive one.
I dont think that anyone has crossed the seib and sharp lines, so we wouldnt know if they are compatible or not.
It seems that yes the sharp line, has been proven out as recessive, but this doesnt mean the seib one has.
I know of at least 6 lines of anery at the present time, but only 1 that is truly proven out, maybe 2. Time will tell for the others, but it wont happen overnight. And it may take even longer to see if any are compatible, as people will be more worried about trying to make more of the line that they already own than doing crosses.

cheers
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Dave

15.24 brbs
4.8 crbs
Im an aussie in an arctic environment
Helsinki, Finland

I think that what Robert means is that it doesn't behave as a "simple recessive". It does appear to be recessive in that it goes dormant in one generation and shows up in the next. But, something else is going on. Stay tuned. I'll need your help on this one.
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

I honestly do not know, That wording is directly from Robert Seib on the Seib line Anery x Hypo project. I don't know if anyone has worked with both lines to see if they are compatible. I was more than a little surprised to hear this about the Seib line.

I only have info on the Sharp line from Brian and of course my own piece of the puzzle and from that everything fits perfectly into the recessive model for the Sharp line Anery gene.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats