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I just hatched out this wierd looking West Langtry. It's mother was an F1(I.D.# lng006F) from two adults I personally collected and it's father(I.D.# lng003M) was a wild caught I also collected.

It's mother's mother(I.D.# lng001F) was collected by me approxiamately 8.5 miles west of Langtry in 1996. It's mother's father(I.D.# lng003M) was collected by me approxiamately 6 miles west of Langtry in 1999.

Some facts about the incubation are the eggs were generally incubated at about 80F, there was two weeks where the eggs were at room temp(about 68-75F) due to me being out of town and about two weeks ago there was a heat wave during which the eggs got up to about 88F. Also the eggs were laid on July 11 and the first one pipped on October 2nd, which would be 84 days.

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Now three have hatched from the above clutch. I am begining to think this may be genetic because they all have the same look. If you read the above post I did have some significant fluctuations in temperature during the incubation. However I have also hatched out greeri, knoblochi and Black Gap alternas this year that experienced the same fluctuation. None of the greeri and knobs were unusual in any way. The Gaps had a wide array of patterns but that's not anything strange for Gaps.

As posted above, these Langtry's are from a father to daughter breeding. Last year I did the same breeding but the eggs got too hot and died before hatching due to a thermostat malfunction. The year before that I did this breeding but all the eggs were infertile. I am going to have to see if I have any records of doing this pairing three years ago. I think this year (2010) may be the first time I have actually hatched any out from this pairing.

I'd be interested in any comments or opinions regarding what might be going on genetically, if anything, with this clutch. Or if anybody has produced similar ones. I do know some generic striped/abberrant alterna have been around for awhile, I think Jason Nelson has them. I think Dan Johnson also used to have some striped/abberrant Langtry's as well but I think they were from East Langtry. However both of those lines had a different look compared to the ones I just produced. If I recall correctly those lines had most of the striping/blotching on the dorsal surface. Mine are just the opposite, the dorsal surface is mostly patternless.

Anyways, here are the second and third to hatch from this clutch.

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Very nice, love it.
What ever you did do it again. I would keep them all!!!!
KC

Thanks. Yes I will be doing the same pairing next year. I've also got 1.4 normal looking F1's from the original wc pair(#001F x #003M). I wonder if they are hets. If it is genetic I would think the male, #003M is the original carrier.

In fact I may as well post pics of the parents.

Here is the mother, #006F:

Here is the father, #003M, who is the mother's father as well. I think he is a serious contender, along with Bob Assetto's infamous Vader, for ugliest gray band ever posted:

This is the mother's mother, #001F:

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Very awesome Aaron....
I would be glad to take a pair of your hands and test breed them for you.....LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
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Thanks John. Where do I send the box, just kidding!
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Very cool!!
It looks like you have a new project now. I bet you're already asking yourself where you're going to make room for them. lol

Thanks. You're right space is always at a premium but I am gonna make room for these. Actually I'm gonna split the clutch with a friend.
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