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Skinny Rescue Snake

mwood322 Oct 07, 2010 07:55 AM

I picked up a rescue ball python from a pet store I formally worked at. I had been working when someone dropped it off Saturday in a filthy cage. He said he fed 'Juicy' a mouse every two weeks. My reaction to taking the snake out was she felt skinny, triangular cross section, and she's floppy, ie not great at holding up her body weight. The manager thought she wasn't that skinny (part of the reason I was leaving.) She isn't that bad if you're comparing her to the stressed out ones in the store. (My mother who's exposure to snakes is only my pets even said she looked skinny.)

Monday was my last day and I forked over a $5 adoption fee to take Juicy home. I really want to know what the $5 was for. No one had cleaned the cage. Someone gave the snake water and turned her heat on, that's it. She was being kept in the room with the overstock mice, and was constantly scenting the room.

I swapped out her nasty cypress mulch for aspen and removed all of her cage furniture. She couldn't hide under any of it, she was too big. With the cage furniture out of the way she is about 3 feet long. The guy dumping her said she is 5 years old. She patrolled her clean cage a little then went in her hide.

She doesn't appear to have any parasitic or bacterial conditions. Her mouth is clear, her belly looks good, and she has no stuck shed, or wrinkled appearance. Though they weren't cleaning the cage, it was dry rather than wet, though the glass was covered in smeared feces. I think it is just a lack of food working on her. She is still sitting in ISO for a minimum of 30 days, I might push it to 90 if I'm overly cautions. I have another ball, some corns and a small boa to worry about.

Yesterday she was out again around sunset scenting and poking at her cage cover. I decided to give feeding a shot, as she has been a very laid back snake and at no point has acted panicky or stressed. I assume he was also feeding her in the cage, which I prefer not to do. I put her in a bin and defrosted a mouse. The only thing I have on hand is large mice, as my other ball refuses to swap to rats. I expected a little tempting to be needed as she was eating live, but nope. I dropped the mouse in and she ate it. I consider that an excellent sign. On to my question.

How often should I be feeding her to get her up to a more normal condition? Assume I'm feeding large mice, as i have plenty of them right now, and she seems to like them. I don't have a scale, so am unsure what her actual weight is currently. When you pick her up her backbone is very prominent. She gets around the cage fine, and can hold up herself to reach the top, she just doesn't seem muscular. I am however comparing her to my 7 year old chunky ball python.

Meet Juicy.

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Replies (11)

bigbearhook Oct 07, 2010 08:29 AM

i had a very similar rescue. I fed him a small rat twice a week until he stopped wanting them. I'd say 2 large mice twice a week would be good. Good luck with her. Post some more pics of her. Especially once she's healthier.

BuzzardBall Oct 07, 2010 08:30 AM

Her eating is a good sign! I'd continue to feed her mice (1) 2-3 times a week! Get the body weight up and then try switching to rats! I'd also put her on newspaper and give her a hot and cold hides!

mwood322 Oct 07, 2010 09:27 AM

I swapped around her cage and gave her a second hide, can't believe I forgot one. She came with a 20 long tank, which I will swap up as soon as I can upgrade one of my bigger snakes. There is barely enough room in this cage for two hides and a water bowl.

I'm not a real fan of newspaper as a substrate. I find it too smooth not to mention ugly, and as I'm not feeding her in the cage I'm not going to worry too much about bedding other than it being clean.

BuzzardBall Oct 07, 2010 09:41 AM

At this point, I wouldn't worry about "ugly"! You're monitoring a malnourished python! Newspaper or paper towels gives you an oppurtunity to monitor fecal as well! When she gets up to optimum weight and health, you can go back to a "terarium" setting! Good luck!

jason Oct 07, 2010 08:56 AM

I agree with the previous posters. My general rule with balls is "if they'll eat, let them". If she'll eat 2 mice twice a week, let her. If she'll switch to rats, even better. can you post a full body shot so we can see her overall condition?
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mwood322 Oct 07, 2010 09:34 AM

This is the best I can do on a body shot without digging her out and messing with her right now. The cage has two hides now and this is from before she ate. Tank is a 20 long aquarium.

Maybe I'm just crazy and she isn't that skinny, but feeding only 1 mouse every two weeks sure sounded like underfeeding to me.

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BuzzardBall Oct 07, 2010 09:44 AM

Not as bad as I envisioned! You're a month away from a robust python! Switch to rats as soon as you can!

jason Oct 07, 2010 11:04 AM

I agree. She's not dangerously thin, though it for sure would not hurt her to put on some weight. Keep up with feeding her and she'll be fattened up in no time.
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bigbearhook Oct 07, 2010 11:40 AM

I agree that she is a little skinny but not as bad as I originally thought. Here is my rescue before and after about 6 months of heaviy feeding. Bottom one is the day I got him.

Bolitochrome Oct 07, 2010 10:10 AM

I am fostering a rescue for a friend of mine (he was sent overseas). Even though she didn't *look* thin, when you picked her up you could feel how baggy she was, feel ribs, and see the backbone. She is also a voracious eater.

My advice would be to provide the large mice 2 times a week. If you see her getting bloated from not being able to process them fast enough, give her an extra day or two off.

Also, provide either a humid hide or line 1/2 of the cage with cypress mulch to keep the humidity and heat up. Even though she might not be growing again just yet, she will shed just as fast as she can. The female I had shed every 4-5 weeks when we first took her in. Her color and scale condition improved and the "baggy" feel started to go away.

Excellent work taking in a rescue. Should be done more often :D
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kingofspades Oct 07, 2010 04:37 PM

Once week should be fine.
I got a female pastel back from a friend that I traded to him 3 years ago...
he fed her...whenever he remembered. She wasn't skinny, but she was SMALL.
(Her sister who I got back from someone else...was 1365 grams.)
She was 500 grams.
I've had her since July 24th, and today she was 1260 grams.

Good luck with yours! I'm sure she'll be fine, and good on you for leaving that craphole store.
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If all the beasts were gone,
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All things are connected."

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