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What Morph would this Pacific Gopher snake be?

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There have been a few of those collected.

Is that one W/C?

byron.d

OK that would make sense. I think it is wild caught because I found it on the CalHerps website. He said it might be amel but I thought it was too dark. IMO, the coolest looking pit I've ever seen, and wild caught too.
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There's an area up there that has kicked out three W/C's that look just like that one...... Cool part is that it's an isolated population that also produces striped animals.
None of the T Positive amels that I'm aware of were striped though.

byron.d

That should be your next project, Byron.
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Don't show me these things !!!!!!!!

I'm swamped with SDs don't tempt me with pacifics!!!

j/k

That is a trophy of a find for whoever found it!
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6.7 pituophis c. annectans
1.1 senticolis t. intermedia
1.1 rhinechis scalaris
1.2 lampropeltis m. thayeri
2.1 pantherophis g. guttatus
1.1 lampropeltis t. campbelli

1.1 pituophis x pantherophis
1.1 lampropeltis campbelli x thayeri x nelsoni

That would be a serious mind-blower to find in the wild.
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The guy that caught that snake email me that photo and more but that was about 7 years ago, guessing on time frame. He offered me in on the project. I contacted him later and he said the snake died.

It looks like a T Albino to me.

Jason

Thats too bad, it was a nice one.
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I'll go as far as saying it's the same morph as this girl. I just bred this female to a striped male and produced half striped, half normals....all hets. My goal is obviously a striped version of this morph, but I'd also like to have a couple normals of this morph. You know I really can't tell if it's simply a hypo or a t positive albino, but either way I think we're all a bit too quick to label with the t tag. This photo is years old and she's only better looking now!

Mitch

Hi Mitch

Very good looking animal! I agree with you, its to early to label what morph it is. Thats why I said it looks like a T and didn't say it was a T

Jason

Jason, I wasn't necessarily aiming that comment at you (in fact I wasn't), but instead that lately I've heard that term a ton more than I ever have in the past. With this snake I'm still not sure it isn't a screaming hypo. Whatever morph it is it sure isn't normal. But yes, you did only say it could be a t-positive...so you are completely correct!

Btw, when I produced hatchlings this year from her I was really hoping that the morph was going to be dominant like the stripe is. But sadly it wasn't.

Mitch

I seen a very light colored P. Gopher posted on FHF a few years ago that looked to far out of the norm, IMO, to be considered just a nice looking normal Gopher snake. I think it was hypo. Its background was a light tan and all its blotches were light brown. This snake has orange blotches, leading me to lean toward T , but I don't know. They are nice snakes whatever they are. I think you snake probably is the same morph, Mitch.
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I was looking at that picture of the hypo Gopher I mentioned and it too appeared to look slightly orangish. Maybe because the lighting is different, it looks different. Lighting in a photograph can change the looks of a snake quite a bit. Mitch, if you know Jerry Boyer, it was a snake he found.
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