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Sorry, but I need identification help

whodini33 Oct 14, 2010 07:01 PM

So I picked up this really pink boa(sorry the pink doesn't show with my crappy camera), but all I am guessing is a pastel. It is a female that was bought from a pet store here in Austin Texas in early 2008. I researched and the pet store remembers that they got boas that year from a local breeder but don't have contact info. You ought to see this boa in person. Any ideas as to what it might be and what I should breed her to? I have a motley male that will go next year and a arabesque male and aberrant hypo male that will go in two seasons. I also have a ghost het albino male that is on breeder loan but will be ready to pair with her next year. Tell me what you think. Thanks for looking.




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LarM Oct 14, 2010 07:23 PM

I can't help but think there is some Hog Island mixed into that Boa
which also looks like it has Colombian influence.

Of course we'll never know for certain , do your best to
track down that local breeder !

. . . Lar M
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whodini33 Oct 14, 2010 07:41 PM

Yeah. I asked my friend and she said the same. I have seen some hog columbian crosses but they were all hypo hogs and never just a hog columbian. Hmmm. Any thoughts though as what I should consider breeding it to? I mean if it is a hog cross and I breed it back to a hog male would they be a sort of pastel hog cross? Makes me wonder.

PBM Oct 14, 2010 10:04 PM

Could help make some nice looking motleys and not step on any purists toes at the same time.

Gorillaunit33 Oct 14, 2010 09:17 PM

Im glad your not afriad to stick your opinion out there. check your aol email.
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Morgans Boas Oct 14, 2010 09:55 PM

I just went thru some old pics of Hog/Col crosses that I've produced in past litter , and yours does not appear to be a Hog cross to me. It is very nicely colored for certain. Definitely fits the definition of a Pastel imo .
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KaiYudSai Oct 15, 2010 10:20 AM

Deja Vu ??
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whodini33 Oct 15, 2010 03:10 PM

Thank you for everyones opinions. The info is greatly appreciated. I think the motley will be the boa of choice next year and hope for some light pinkish babies.

As for the Deja Vu, what does that mean?

KaiYudSai Oct 15, 2010 03:30 PM

Because we just had a long drawn out discussion on boa ID....
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Jonathan_Brady Oct 15, 2010 04:37 PM

"what??" and read all of that.

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Kelly_Haller Oct 15, 2010 06:22 PM

I would have to agree with Jonathan's comments within this thread and the previous Oct. 12th thread on the subject. As an example, I have many times seen subspecific intergrade litters in alternate years from the same breeding pair that looked completely different, and not appear to be from anywhere near the same parents. There is absolutely no way of determining for certain the genetic make up of any boa constrictor in captivity today unless that line has been isolated since capture in it's native habitat, no matter what it appears to resemble. The current degree of subspecific cross breeding is almost beyond comprehension, and additionally, many morphological subspecies marker traits can be deceptive when genetically expressed within many subspecific intergrades. The high degree of variability within even isolated wild populations only adds to the uncertainty. The Python molurus complex went down this road decades ago, and genetically pure Indian and Sri Lanka specimens are now difficult to verify. Just my thoughts on a complex subject.

Kelly

patoquack Oct 15, 2010 09:39 PM

I think it's cool that you got the kinds of responses you were looking for. My first thought was that she might have some BCC in her.

I think it is definitely a cool looking boa - of completely unknown origin - makes it kinda fun to not know exactly what you might get when you breed her.

I don't think you would go wrong breeding it to any morph. I still prefer jungles, so that would be my choice.

as for the "deja vu" comment - I don't think you were even looking for any definite answers to your boa's origin, were you?? just wanted to know what people guesses were?

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