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Great, now I am not going to get any sympathy when my luck runs out.

Dude those snakes are awesome!!!!!

Congrats....they look sweet!

Those look amazing. The Leopard gene strikes again! Nice work.
Matt Ozsvath
Lizards of Oz
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Oh man those head patterns are wicked! Very cool. Congrats!
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Jessica Gibbs
Ball Pythons; Corn Snakes; Green Tree Python; Jungle Carpet Python; Bci; Bcl; Bco
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I am curious about this morph honestly don't know anything avout the leopard. Where did it originate? Is it co-dom? thanks....

Please correct me as required. Everything I have learned about the leopard morph has occured in the past 5 days. Said information is included herein and is open for discussion and revision.
1. Leopard Morph is Dominant
I am not sure this can be determined with certainty based on the pairings thus far, but as far as this clutch goes recessive is completely out and either Codom or dominant are the only possibilities.
2. Leopard pattern is an abberant body pattern and a unique pattern on its head. Head shows up extremely light in Pastel Leopard Het Pieds, Less light in Pastel leopard Pieds, and nearly unobservable in Pieds
3. Leopard gene possibly requires the presence of a piebald gene before it becomes visual, perhaps all leopards are het pieds, perhaps leopard gene can be carried as a hidden gene in non het pieds.

I purchased my pied male as just a normal pied male a couple years ago, this is his first clutch, he is a great looking snake, seems a bit lighter than most, but nobody ever suspected that he carried this leopard gene.

The Dam was a Pastel Het Pied that bred for me last year, she was paired with another Pastel Het pied, I got a pastel pied, a normal pied, and 4 pastel 66% het pieds, none showed any leopard traits.

Thank You all for the kinds words and constructive criticism,

I have posted what I feel are better pictures and uploaded them to my gallery, here are some closeups of the heads. Good luck out there and scrutinize those pieds, you may have a leopard.

Still learning the ropes, my apologies. first pic on previous message was Sire - leopard pied, second pic was Dam Pastel Het pied, third picture was pastel leopard pied.

The following pictures are first the pastel leopard het pied, second is the piebald that is a sibling, looking to be a leopard as well.

....original person to hatch/breed the Leopard morph.

Here's a link to his 2005 Photo Gallery showing some freshly hatched Leopards.
Leopards are on pages 2 and 3 of the 2005 Gallery.
Updated photos on pages 2 and 6 of the 2006 Gallery.
And you'll definitely want to check out pages 2,3, and 4 in the 2009 Gallery.

I'm sure Greg could give you some great info.

Hope this helps you out. Congrats on those surprises!

BB

Graziani's Leopards (2005 Gallery)

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Mark,

What a great group of pieds.

I'm so excited that you produced such a unique group ball pythons.

I can't wait to see them in person.

Way to go bud.
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Brian Gundy

www.for-goodness-snakes.com