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Now when I feed off my worthless cornsnakes what is the best procedure..should I do CO2 gassing, snapping there necks, or just feed them off alive...I don't want to put the dime a dozen animals in too much pain...

Later Randy T.
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You never experience life until you have kids..then you realize what you should have done rather then what you did do

what is your problem,
you do not come into a corn snake forum and ask the best way to feed corn snakes off or call them worthless or even a dime a dozen are you looking for trouble?

It is a legitimate question asked on the appropriate forum...the post is about cornsnakes..I didn't go on the ball python forum and ask..I wanted to gather the info from the corn people who keep the feeders/corns and know them.

Thanks Randy T.
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You never experience life until you have kids..then you realize what you should have done rather then what you did do

No, it's not the appropriate forum. If you're using a snake as a feeder, it goes in a feeder forum. It's trolling to go to a pet rat forum and ask how to kill the rats so you can feed them to snakes - it's trolling to go to a pet snake forum and ask how you should kill them. Simple as that.
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Also, if you want serious answers to a question like that, it's probably best to refrain from using adjectives such as 'worthless'.
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-audri
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Ahhh. whats det sayin???...wats gud for de goose is gud fer de gander?

np
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Jeannie

0.1 Baja de L.A. Rosy Boa (Bella)
0.1 Okeetee Corn Snake (Bess)
1.1 Rubber Boas (Isaiah & Esther)
0.0.1 Hermann's Tortoise (Moxie)
1.0 Leopard Gecko (George)
2.0 adopted DSH Cats (Amos & Silas)
1.0 rescued English Springer Spaniel (Jimmy)
and...
2.0 Kids w/ 0.0.1 California King Snake (Rex), 0.1 Leopard Gecko (Geico), 1.0 Mexican Rosy Boa (Lucas)
1.0 Husband (no pets, just us, lol)

I generally just browse forums reading tidbits of info in passing, but every once in a while , I read one that I feel drawn to post on. This is one of those. Those "dime a dozen" corns you speak of are living breathing animals, and should be fed as such. I haven never been able to get any of my snake feeders to eat a pre killed snake. Maybe I am doing something wrong. My kings seem to rather enjoy eating live, and watching the struggle as they kill the corns is kind of a rush. So, to answer your question..go live. A little corn isn't gonna hurt a king much even if it decides to be fiesty.good luck

Dave Giltner

I appreciate the help..It is hard to get into a new aspect of a hobby when the other people do not want to help..I appreciate it.

Thanks Randy T.
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You never experience life until you have kids..then you realize what you should have done rather then what you did do

Not sure about the forum selection, but it is a legit question. I know if I were going to raise up some anoles to feed off, I would go to a lizard forum, but I doubt I would ask how to fatten them up.

The corn got raped by my honduran male. This is an anery cornduran. shhhhhhhhh...Don't ask don't tell!

I can see keeping a snake like that...That is a beauty..

Thanks Randy T.
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You never experience life until you have kids..then you realize what you should have done rather then what you did do

dem dar black widows are naaasty biatches. She eats er mate after deys dun doin it. Yuk!
Oops I fergit somtimes where I am. Dat garnit! I am in the cornsnake forum. AT least I got er spectin agin. I gots me all colors now. Dey so puurty!

Looks like it has a target on its head that just screams "eat me",lol

WOW....I REALLY like your cornduran. Do you have an extra that you wanna get rid of?

I LOVE these forums
MissHisssss

When I feed off nonefeeder corns (culling) to Kings I have witnessed that the Kings do not bother to constrict but eat the snakes alive. Seems like a horrble death.. So now I freeze them. Honostly I think it is much the same when it comes to horrible deaths. But the Kings takes them both ways.

Marcel
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

I use to frequent the burmese forum back when you posted all of your old burm pix...

Later Randy T.
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You never experience life until you have kids..then you realize what you should have done rather then what you did do

Great, he is looking more and more like his father. And he loves snakes

Marcel

>>I use to frequent the burmese forum back when you posted all of your old burm pix...
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>>Later Randy T.
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>>You never experience life until you have kids..then you realize what you should have done rather then what you did do

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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

That post brings up a question. Randy, do you plan to buy the corns, or breed them yourself. Corn are very prolific, so I would say it would be a wise investment to buy a colony and breed the feeders yourself, as I do with rats and mice.

I think I will either breed them myself or just have some of the larger breeders ship me defective neos at an extremely discounted rate..I already breed rodents, so I don't know if I have enough time for another feeder colony.

Thanks Randy T.
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You never experience life until you have kids..then you realize what you should have done rather then what you did do

As a breeder of many "dime a dozen" species, I agree that even the "normals" have intrinsic value as living creatures.

I know I once walked away from a purchase because the breeder jokingly quipped that he fed leopard geckos to his monitors.

Now on the other hand, assuming a disease free but severely deformed specimen, would it be so cruel to consider feeding it off as a method of culling? I don't think it would be. Granted it may not be the natural prey, but we still own opportunistic predators that might relish the meal.

It may not seem 'humane' but it certainly is more 'natural' and possibly less 'cruel' than trying [sometimes in vain] to hand feed and nurture certain animals and expose them to constant stress just because you can't accept that it wasn't born to live and thrive.
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Anyone ever see the friends episode where they went to buy a christmas tree, and Phoebe thought that putting the scrawny ones in the shreeder was horrible because they had not fullfilled their christmas destiny? I think that the same thing can be said of the "defective" corns. If they arent being fed off, as they would be in the wild quickly be devoured, then they aren't fullfilling their destiny. Instead,they are being subjected to an often painfull life, and then put in a shoe box in he back yard to be fed on by worms. Why not help them realize that "deformed life form" destiny?

But he was referring to "worthless" and "dime a dozen" corns, not "defective" ones, and there is a difference.
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Jeannie

0.1 Baja de L.A. Rosy Boa (Bella)
0.1 Okeetee Corn Snake (Bess)
1.1 Rubber Boas (Isaiah & Esther)
0.0.1 Hermann's Tortoise (Moxie)
1.0 Leopard Gecko (George)
2.0 adopted DSH Cats (Amos & Silas)
1.0 rescued English Springer Spaniel (Jimmy)
and...
2.0 Kids w/ 0.0.1 California King Snake (Rex), 0.1 Leopard Gecko (Geico), 1.0 Mexican Rosy Boa (Lucas)
1.0 Husband (no pets, just us, lol)

I should not have used the word "legitimate". The question was legitimate (i.e., valid), but IMO not appropriate for this forum. Now, a discussion on what to do with neonates that are clearly injured or defective/disabled in some way would be appropriate, but that is a far cry from talking about killing snakes just because they aren't worth very much.
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Jeannie

0.1 Baja de L.A. Rosy Boa (Bella)
0.1 Okeetee Corn Snake (Bess)
1.1 Rubber Boas (Isaiah & Esther)
0.0.1 Hermann's Tortoise (Moxie)
1.0 Leopard Gecko (George)
2.0 adopted DSH Cats (Amos & Silas)
1.0 rescued English Springer Spaniel (Jimmy)
and...
2.0 Kids w/ 0.0.1 California King Snake (Rex), 0.1 Leopard Gecko (Geico), 1.0 Mexican Rosy Boa (Lucas)
1.0 Husband (no pets, just us, lol)

I apologize if you thought I was suggesting the use of cornsnakes as feeders because they are cheap. I was suggesting there use because of the extreme ease of breeding, high availability, and cost was a minor part of that...Mainly the near lack of talent/trying to breed them and being successful.

Thanks Randy T.
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You never experience life until you have kids..then you realize what you should have done rather then what you did do

I'm sick enough of my husband making that joke:

Go feed the dog!
To what?
Go feed the sand boas!
To what?

He's so busy making that joke I end up feeding everything.
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Peter: It's OK, I'll handle it. I read a book about something like this.
Brian: Are you sure it was a book? Are you sure it wasn't NOTHING?

>>It is a legitimate question asked on the appropriate forum...the post is about cornsnakes..I didn't go on the ball python forum and ask..I wanted to gather the info from the corn people who keep the feeders/corns and know them.
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It is a legitimate question but is was most certainly NOT asked on the 'appropriate' forum.

People legitimately feed animals like corn snakes, anoles, leo geckos, bearded dragons, and other reptiles to certain other reptiles as a food souce. It is totally inappropriate for someone to deliberately go to a forum where people keep a certain animal as a pet and then blurt out questions about how to kill said animal for the purpose of feeding it to something. Bringing such talk to a 'pet' forum is disruptive and unacceptable.

The APPROPRIATE forum for this topic of discussion is 'Feeder Food Discussion' forum to which this discussion will be moved to after it's been sorted through and cleaned up.

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Thanks Randy T.
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You never experience life until you have kids..then you realize what you should have done rather then what you did do