got these guys just in time for brumating. over 30 adults, these are some of my favorites










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Stu
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got these guys just in time for brumating. over 30 adults, these are some of my favorites










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Stu
Snakes N Gex.com
Wow those are sweet! give us a list of what they are? I can guess some but others are not so clear. Congrats on some choice breeders.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra
The copper and grey are rosy rats / upper keys
not sure what the first one is?? theres another that looks similar. thought some variation on miami at first, but the more I look at them I don't think that's right.
the one Dmong called a Lava ( I agree ) was labeled as a hypo okeetee. Theres another of those, but not near as visually striking.
the rest everybody will know, I think?
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Stu
Snakes N Gex.com
The "Lava's" did in fact originate from wild Okeetee corns captured in Jasper county. These snakes were sold by Gordon Schuett to Joe Pierce in 1992, and these snakes offspring displayed a distinctly strange "milky" translucence to their hypomelanism that is very different from the other hypo types. So it really is a hypo "Okeetee" as well..LOL!.
Only this hypo gene is not the more typical type "A" hypomelanism that is displayed in most other corns, then later introduced into the Okeetees via someone's breeding project. It is referred to as type "C" hypomelanism in these so-called "Lava's".
Anyway, those are all some sweet corns you scored man! 
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing" 
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
The first one is a variant of Keys "Rosy Rat" as well. I would imagine the belly is substancially reduced melanin-wise too.
Hey, are the eyes deep red on that "Lava"?, or black when you look at it real good in decent lighting?
From what I have seen and understood, the true "Lava's" have ruby-red eyes as well.
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing" 
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
Thanks for the 411 Doug!!
I'll have to check its eyes today, never knew that!
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Stu
Snakes N Gex.com
>>The first one is a variant of Keys "Rosy Rat" as well. I would imagine the belly is substancially reduced melanin-wise too.
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>>Hey, are the eyes deep red on that "Lava"?, or black when you look at it real good in decent lighting?
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>>From what I have seen and understood, the true "Lava's" have ruby-red eyes as well.
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Hopefully I will be able to answer that question next season Doug...I have a pair of okeetees het lava that will be ready to breed in the spring..whoo whoo
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Corn snakes and rat snakes...No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes
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Very cool Jimmy!........
Good luck with those guys, and I look forward to the pics later on!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing" 
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
>>Very cool Jimmy!........
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>> Good luck with those guys, and I look forward to the pics later on!
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>> ~Doug
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Oh I'll definitely post pics when I get lava hatchlings..
I have a few other plans for the lava gene as well but that's a little further down the road...lol.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes...No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes
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Wow!!,..and I REALLY LIKE those Keys "rosy rats" and that Lava (type C) hypo!!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing" 
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
np
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Stu
Snakes N Gex.com
That last one looks alot like my hypo stripe female. but mine has lighter stripes. Is that a normal stripe?
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Kent
0.1 Hypomelanistic striped cornsnake
1.1 Hypo (het lavender, striped) cornsnake hatchlings
2.2 Normal (het hypo, lavender, striped) cornsnake hatchlings
1.2 Gray-banded kingsnakes, blairs phase
1.1 Oregon rubber boas
supposed to be a normal stripe...i've got a lot of variety in my stripes already so I'm sticking with normal until it proves not 
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Stu
Snakes N Gex.com
Those "Keys" animals are really sweet.
np
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Stu
Snakes N Gex.com
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