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Possible New T Line According to the Experts

Hi All,

Following a lot of deliberation, consultation and advice we have decided to post pictures and details of our possible new T line. This post not only allows us to share our excitement with you all but also to allow you to share in our journey of discovery as we start that exciting road of actually proving out our possible new T line. We hope to not be disappointed with the final outcome.

Whilst at the recent Doncaster, Sept 2010, show I approached Pete Rice. Initially to seek advice on my attractive looking Boas’, hoping there was something special about them and secondly to get an experienced breeder to cast his eye over them and to assist in their subsequent morph identification.

Following numerous questions by Pete with regards to my boas’ parentage and history he brought to my attention that they were a T and promptly bought a visual pair from me. It wasn’t until I spoke to John Berry that the true worth of my boas came to light. John kindly informed me that indeed my boas were a form of T however, they appeared to be much brighter than other T and as such John informed me that my boas’ could be a possible new T line. How pleased was I to hear that from John Berry of all people and from this moment on I would like to call my possible new T line the “Hypnotic T Tyson Line”.

Web Site…

Should any you wish to find out a little more about our possible new T line then kindly go to Hypnoticreptiles.com for further information and pictures.

Pictures…

Please find below a number of pictures of my male T in numerous poses and let me know what you kindly think.
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Jeff Ronne Sr
The Boaphile
Director USARK

Originator of Boaphile Plastics
The Boaphile Boa Site

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No Images, No website, No " T's"
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Boas By Klevitz

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This is the link off a UK forum
www.hypnoticreptiles.webspace.virginmedia.com/

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www.jnb-boas.co.uk

here are some of the photos from the UK site. To be honest the ones I saw at the Doncaster show were better looking in the flesh.

cheers, John

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John Berry
New Designer Morphs - Ball pythons and Boa constrictors - out now
www.bigreptileworld.com
www.johnberryreptiles.com

It's very exciting to see a new really nice "T" project pop up over across the pond John Berry! It's going to be fun to watch their progress! Beautiful kiddies mate!
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Jeff Ronne Sr
The Boaphile
Director USARK

Originator of Boaphile Plastics
The Boaphile Boa Site

>>It's very exciting to see a new really nice "T" project pop up over across the pond John Berry! It's going to be fun to watch their progress! Beautiful kiddies mate!
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Hey Jeff, just to confirm, these are NOT my snakes ... I just saw them when they were being sold as nice "normals" .... when asked what I thought I had to be honest and tell the breeder what they were ... very nice" T positives " and maybe a new line ?? (as the parents were pet shop hets). As I said in my post above, in the flesh they are stunning ! ... hhmm maybe I should get some

cheers, John

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John Berry
New Designer Morphs - Ball pythons and Boa constrictors - out now
www.bigreptileworld.com
www.johnberryreptiles.com

I knew they weren't yours John. But being sold as nice "normals"? Wow! Almost anybody else would have just bought every one of them on the spot as fast as possible and never told them the truth! You are a good man John Berry.

I see people post new stuff and others try to take advantage of them. I do everything I can from my little computer to make sure those people understand the great value they have stumbled upon. You obviously did the same thing. That's really nice.

I hope they didn't sell any of them...

How much were they asking?
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Jeff Ronne Sr
The Boaphile
Director USARK

Originator of Boaphile Plastics
The Boaphile Boa Site

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>>How much were they asking?
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See my email ... cheers, John

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John Berry
New Designer Morphs - Ball pythons and Boa constrictors - out now
www.bigreptileworld.com
www.johnberryreptiles.com

They almost assuredly are a form of "T" Positive. Not much doubt in my mind. I'd still really like to see them along side their litter mates in the goo.

Very nice babies. They are not lighter than the other forms of "T" Positive out there though. Very nice though.

A few things I would really like to see are these;

- Pictures of the litter together. There is nothing that illustrates the beauty and shocking realization of what you have like those pictures of the babies while still covered in baby Boa goo along side the non-visual animals.

- I'd like to see them now that they must be a few months old. These look like brand new shed babies. "T" Positive Boas change a lot as they get larger and it will be very interesting to see how these guys look as they get older and larger.

One tiny constructive criticism. Including your copyright and name using such bold and or obstructive lettering is not necessary. It really makes it harder for people to see them. A small copyright anywhere in the midst of the picture that could not be cropped away is really all that is necessary to protect from copying.
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Jeff Ronne Sr
The Boaphile
Director USARK

Originator of Boaphile Plastics
The Boaphile Boa Site

Interesting "T" Line . . . . this is what I've always imagined the Nicaraguan line that Tom Burke and Jeremy Stone
began working with back in 2002 or what ever.

Anyway this is what I've always imagined those Burke /Stone Nic "T's" would
look like once they were mixed into Colombian Boas,
possibly over more than one generation !

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz

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These do look outstanding in teh flesh - I too saw some of these at the show.

Chris

Cool snakes!

After looking at the pictures, I agree that it looks like a T positive. That makes, what, half a dozen lines? It's getting to be that you can't tell the T positives without a program. Don't get me wrong; I like the look of the snakes. I just dislike the grabbag character of the T positive designation.

These babies are claimed to be brighter than other T positive lines. But is that because of the mutant gene or because of other color genes? It's possible that this is a known T positive type on a different genetic background. Pictures of the parents would be helpful.

Did the parents come from the same source or from different sources? If they came from the same source, they could be brother and sister. If from different sources, they are less likely to be brother and sister.

The genetics is still unknown, too. The odds are that it is a recessive mutant gene, especially if produced in a brother x sister mating. But probability is not certainty. It could be a dominant or codominant mutant.

Lots of work ahead to nail down some of those unknowns. Good luck, and keep the web site up to date on your results, please.

Paul Hollander

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>>These babies are claimed to be brighter than other T positive lines. But is that because of the mutant gene or because of other color genes?

yes, I think that there is no line better than an other, the results depend on the bloodlines they are coming from. I mean it's all about if the het's are dark with a large amount of black or if the het's are nice clean pastels. All the bloodlines can be refined, it has allready been done with the VPI's.
It works the same with T negative, the Kahl albinos produced now can't be compared to what they were some years ago, 'yellow banana's' are no more a fatality, they can hold their colors with age. If the hets don't have colors the albinos won't have colors....