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Babies from all four of my Peruvian Litters are coloring up after shedding for the first or second time.

A couple more of them.

Very nice Jeff, some are colouring up very nicely there!
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Anthony Young, UK

Hey Jeff, they are looking good but dang you need to work on your photo skills....

Are these taken on the same background?

and

If those two are on the same background, then at least one group has the colors off.

And these two from your second post...
(IMO this one is clearly over-saturated)

while this one looks more like it's correct colors...

makes it hard to know what they actually look like.

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I have that same problem all the time.

These three pics were all taken the same day -- same time, same snake, same background (and yes, it's one of Jeff's!):

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1.2 Peruvian rainbow boas (Amaru, Asiru, Kulipsa)
2.0 Brazilian rainbow boas (Arco, Olho)
1.3.1 Honduran milksnakes (Chicchan, Chanir, Chakar, Hari, Saksak)
1.0 Thayeri kingsnake (Coatl)
0.0.1 Mexican black kingsnake (Mora)
2.4.4 corns (Cetto, Tolosa, Uce, TBA)
1,000,000.1,000,000 other critters

SO, it's not the camera, it's Jeff's Chameleon snakes?
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

>>SO, it's not the camera, it's Jeff's Chameleon snakes?

IMHO it's actually the annoying propensity of digital cameras to react differently to colors depending on who-knows-what external factors. In my pics, I was using natural light with no flash for all photos. The snake was not moved between shots (he moved himself a bit in the course of the shoot, but did not move from one location to another). The only real difference was the angle of some of the shots, and thus the angle of the light. And I did absolutely NO manipulation, aside from cropping, after the photos were taken.

This problem drives me batty when trying to assess snake colors -- or, in another context, chicken egg colors (I raise two breeds that are known for laying dark brown eggs, and another breed known for laying blue eggs). It's nearly impossible to accurately assess true colors in digital photos. I like what you do with duplicating backgrounds for all offspring, and providing both flash and natural-light shots, but I don't fool myself that your pics are accurate color representations either. That's why I focus mostly on choosing hatchling patterns in photos, and then ask the breeder to pic between my favorites based on color in person.
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1.2 Peruvian rainbow boas (Amaru, Asiru, Kulipsa)
2.0 Brazilian rainbow boas (Arco, Olho)
1.3.1 Honduran milksnakes (Chicchan, Chanir, Chakar, Hari, Saksak)
1.0 Thayeri kingsnake (Coatl)
0.0.1 Mexican black kingsnake (Mora)
2.4.4 corns (Cetto, Tolosa, Uce, TBA)
1,000,000.1,000,000 other critters

Partly the color variations are in the snakes and partly the camera. I do occasionally shoot a good photo. I was down in Florida on a fishing trip last week and shot photos of my grandnephew. I emailed the best one to the extended family and my brother (the photographer) asked me to send a full resolution jpeg of the PIC. What???? Actually I do know that computers compress photos and email handlers resize and/or compress them further but I do not have a clue about how to get full resolution photos out of the camera into the computer and sent to someone. Anyway he is telling me about all the features on my camera. The feature I notice the most is that the darned operators manual is over 100 pages long. If I get hit by a truck and am in bed for a year I MIGHT make enough time to read a 100 page operators manual. Until then I will keep on shooting quick and dirty pics. BTW, does anyone know where I can find a cell phone that works EXACTLY like the rotary dial phones that we had when I was a kid? Danged progress!!!!

Dave,
...Four photos taken at different times under different lighting conditions. The first two are on the same background (a green plastic box lid) and each photo pretty accurately shows the colors of those two particular snakes. They really are that different in color. The difference in the shade of green is probably due to how my camera sees that color under different lighting conditions. I often crop photos when I download them to the computer. I only rarely tweak the colors, when I do it almost always is because the photo is more colorful than the snake really is and I then usually decrease the midtones to bring the photo back to a more accurate representation of what the snake really looks like. Agreed that the third photo is oversaturated. The fourth photo accurately shows what that snake looked like about the time of it's first shed. It is not a pretty color and I could have not shown that photo if I had wanted. The snake is even much more colorful now after shedding for the second time. I could have posted a photo of what it looks like now if my sole purpose was to wow people with pretty pictures. Instead I make an effort to show as much of the natural variation in colors as I can. OTOH, I have never taken much interest in photography and so my photographic skills are lacking, which is strange in that one of my brothers is a professional photographer.
Jeff

Very nice, Jeff!! 41M is really awesome, I love the thick striping.