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So I have a nice male (like 8yr old ) everglades rat and while I am pairing up (on paper) my upcoming breedings I want to maybe pair him with a Greenish female (Dwight Goods baby and has a fair amount of orange over the green). Just wondering if it is worth it or should I hunt down a Greenish boy? Will I get ugly muddy things that won't be worth it?
Other option is a DGood Whitesided Everglades male.

Thoughts?
TIA
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Sonya

I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
Happy Bunny

Well, I would personally would keep them paired to their own subspecies. You could also get some of "Godfrey's" very cool locality "Greenish" morphs too. This is a VERY unique morph from a very unique looking wild caught animal, and he later produced hets from this single animal, and now has visual morphs of these. If you look down a good ways, you could find some of his posts of these very interesting snakes. They are WAY COOL!, and are likely a form of hypomelanism, as he has produced two different phenotypes from the same clutch. It is probably very similar to the "extreme" hypo gene in Honduran milks, where they can produce extremes and darker hypos as well from the same clutch. They are a very new deal, and you would be in on the first floor so to speak to work with them. "Kevin M" on the forums also just acquired a couple hets from him too.

Here is what the adult looks like......

http://forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch.php?id=1669697,1671172&key=2009

And here is what some of the hatchlings look like.......

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1835060,1835060&key=2010

Good luck whatever you decide to do!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Crap, I forgot about his Moonshine project....GREAT, just what I need...something else to work on. Thanks a lot Doug.
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Sonya

I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
Happy Bunny

LOL!!,...yeah, but those are such a new morph you would probably enjoy figuring the gene out along with the other select few that are involved with those. Some of the other rat morphs are pretty cool too, that I must admit, but Godfrey is the ONLY one that has these with the exception of just a very few people he sold some to.

I don't think he has even sold any of the visual morph hatchlings to the public yet because he wants to see how they ontogenetically progress as they mature in hopes of getting a better "handle" on what is going on with this new morph.

That is exactly what I did with some of my killer brooksi I acquired back in 2007. I would have been very stupid to sell off babies that I didn't even have a clue as to what they would become first. And I am sure as heck glad I did keep the entire first clutch too. I could not be happier with what they have become!. The original two that I picked up looked pretty typical for floridana hatchlings, but to my surprise(and the seller too) turned out to be some of the nicest in the entire country. And THEIR offspring is maturing up phenomenally as well, with some very unexpected surprises to boot!!,

The seller wasn't to happy about this, but I was certainly doing backflips when I saw what they later became, and their offspring which are now yearlings are FAR beyond my wildest expectations!

Anyway, you get the picture..LOL!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

What makes the greenish rats unique is not their coloration IMO, but their unique locality origin of the true integrades. Mixing it with a glades would probably produce unspectacular, non-locality "NA Ratsnakes". Nothing special if you just want a bunch of "Pet Ratsnakes". Like Doug mentioned, keep like to like unless you are trying to intro some gene into a line. But even then I would frown on that personally. There is enough confusion and uncertainty going on with many of the species of rats and kings, especially the yellows and glades imo.