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Not the naturalistic photos I enjoy so much from others on this forum, but I wanted to share these recent additions. I've been pretty excited about them, to say the least

DMong and terryd, thanks for the conversation!

1st pic is a 2010 followed by an '09 pair.

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Adam Schroeder

Very nice bunch there Adam!

Yeah, it was fun corresponding man!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

I especially like the eye-brows on that first critter. Syspila are great to work with.

-Cole

Thanks Cole! I've been enjoying them. They're good feeders, tolerate handling, and add some color to my collection.
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Adam Schroeder

Sweet looking snakes Adam.
L.t. syspila have really taken a strong foot hold in my collection, something I didn't plan. They have been such a great milk to work w/ as far as temperament and color and pattern variances that a keeper can easily find more Red milks in ones collection then he planned on. I know Cole could say the same thing, and don't even get Hardwick started on syspila, he has become the Red milk guru.

Have fun w/ them.

-Dell

One of this year's? Look at the orange/peach in the background behind the head... like one of its parents, if I remember correctly. That animal is going to be stunning.

-Cole

Yeah Cole, this years hatchling, Marion county. And best of all they are taking pink heads on their own too. Last years clutch took a number of weeks before they took heads on their own, as I'm sure you'll remember me complaining about.

-Dell

I remember the headache last year with those buggers. Glad they're feeding better this time around. I'll call you later on.

-Cole

Hey Dell,

Duly noted I don't have 3 of anything. For years, I imagined the L.t.triangulum collection I'd like to have if they weren't regulated in WI ... I was overlooking these cool milks.

Thanks for the replies!
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Adam Schroeder

Yeah Adam you'll enjoy working w/ those syspila.

I know this could fire a few folks up but t. triangulum couldn't hold a Red milks jock strap.

-Dell

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......oooh!,..upper-cut city!..HAHAA!

Awesome examples there Dell!!. Nice photo's too bro!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Photo credit to Dan Krull

Not that my snake would want to touch your snake's jock strap, but they are basically the same snake, no?

Eastern triangulum and western triangulum. (I know all the subspecies, but there seem to be very minute differences between all of the eastern subspecies as well as all the western subspecies.)
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Joe

Ahhh shoot Joe. I knew you'd come in w/ that awesome albino triangulum you found to put me in my place. And well you should too, I might add.

In my opinion western triangulum (gentilis, taylori, multistrata, celaenops) are quite a bit different then lowly eastern triangulum (triangulum, elapsoides, syspila and the ever weird and argued triangulum x elapsoides).
Of course this is said w/ tongue in cheek, but will say it is how I view North American milk snakes by and large.

multistrata, creme de la creme of all milks.

syspila, second jewel in the crown.

taylori, could also be second jewel in the milk snake crown, only because they try so hard to look like Pales. But alas they fall short w/ to many damn red body rings.

celaenops, the ever bright but whippy and nervous southwestern milk. These little crap throwers could beat out syspila for second spot if they weren't such spazztastic nippy little buggers.

gentilis, the great, great grandfather of Pales. These milks will always be better looking then any eastern triangulum could ever be.

elapsoids, are outstanding looking but lets face it, they'er not really a milk snake now are they. If not soon, doomed to forever be reclassified.

triangulum, the ugly step sister of North American milk snakes. Sorry Joe.

In case you're wondering I didn't forget amaura & annulata, I just feel these two are wanna-be celaenops and what ever South American milk you can think of. So they don't even make my list.

-Dell
All multistrata to make my point.

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Hold one? There are Ltt's out there that can't even get into one LOL

I like both ssp. Keep the pictures coming Dell; love those hets and hypos of yours!
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Adam Schroeder

Beautiful milks. I realllllly like that first one!
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Joe

Thanks Joe. Thanks too for showing off that albino Eastern ... the ones that look like that aren't regulated here in WI
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Adam Schroeder