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I finally managed to snap off a couple photos of my juvenile hypo prairies. Each snake is about two feet in length, so they should go this coming spring. The lighting isn't the best but you can get an idea of how clean and bright these two are. Thanks for looking!
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Female
Mitch
Nice Mitch. Are these Mark Bell animals? Or were his from you??
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!
Mark,
Yup, these were descendants from Mark Bell stock. They've grown so quickly (as most prairies do) that I'm sitting here pondering whether to breed them next spring or not. As I said before, the female is around 20-23 inches and has great weight. I was talking to my good friend Joe Cop and he said "hey, if she produces follicles she's ready", and I'm inclined to agree with him. I've had first year prairies triple clutch before, but they had a bit more size on them. Anyhow, I was going to post some photos of my Leon Co., FL, mole kings so you could see them. However, I first have to photo the buggers!
Mitch
That's a very cool looking morph. I even like the albino prairies but the hypo just lends a level of contrast that I find very pleasing in kings.
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“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson
Tony,
Apparently my stock is probably het. for albinism as well. I wonder if a hybino will produce a distinct morph like you see in boas? We'll see. Now all we need to do is produce and anery so we can make ghosts, as that morph would just kick ass!
Mitch
Those are stunning! I don't think I ever seen hypo moles before? Thanks for the post.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra
Wow Mitch, they have gotten big. Simply awesome animals.
Joe,
Yup, they've gotten quite sizable. Also, the male just gets better and better with each shed!
Mitch
>>Those are stunning! I don't think I ever seen hypo moles before? Thanks for the post.
Not hypo moles but hypo prairies......
Very nice ones too......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com
Don't know why I said that, lol.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra
>>Don't know why I said that, lol.
LOL.....
I do know someone that claims to have pure amelanistic mole kings.........
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com
Does he have amel calligaster's and think they are actually rhombomaculata or occipitolineata?..LOL!
Did you set him straight on the deal? 
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing" 
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
>>Does he have amel calligaster's and think they are actually rhombomaculata or occipitolineata?..LOL!
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>>Did you set him straight on the deal?
I questioned it too.....and got some pics and.....
They do not look like Calligaster at all..........
They look like rhombomaculata..........And they have locality information as well.......
But.....As you and I know.....
The Calligaster "look" could have been bred out of them within a few generations....
Or.....they are the real deal.......
It all boils down to what you want to believe.........lol
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com
Yeah, all that is very true for sure. Did he give you any details on the origin of how these "magically" appeared in his collection by any chance?..LOL!
And as we both know, almost anything is possible, but listening to some people's stories of exactly how things came about helps a bit as to the credibility of the story too. Of course people can makeup pretty good tales if they really want to......
Yeah, sceptical, but yet plausible. This is pretty similar to the so-called white-sided "Everglades" Ratsnake people are starting to ask about being offered on another forum..LOL!. And I certainly don't by that one for a second, that is even harder for me to believe actually. We are in the times were there is virtually everyone crossing just about anything to come up with a "new" morph..LOL!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
Simply OUTSTANDING Mitch!!.....
I remember seeing one of those on a table in Daytona back in '07. This awesome female no doubt has to be from that very same unique hypo bloodline too.
I was definitely admiring this animal as well, and Rainer and I briefly talked about how nice this thing was too, although we both thought it was extremely pricey at the time too..LOL!
Those two are indeed the picture of health, so good luck with them breeding soon!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
Doug,
Holy crap! Who in their right minds would pay $700 for these! No offense, they are gorgeous, but they are prairies and they'll double clutch for you every year. I simply can't believe that in 2007 they were that price. I picked up my pair for $250 in 2009. That's a pretty steep drop in price (but not much of a surprise because of how prolific they are). I've wondered why albino hoggies haven't taken the price plunge yet as well, seeing as how they breed large numbers and can regularly double too. Thanks for the photo, as that animal must have really caught your eye to photo it in a cup! Haha.
Mitch
Yeah, I was thinking that was simply a ridiculously high price. I would be willing to bet whever had it on their table could NEVER sell it anywhere near that, so he had to come back to earth and reduce it substantially in order to move it.
Yes, EXTREMELY cool looking, but the $700 label was just plain insanity..LOL!
Wow!, you got a killer pair for $250 Mitch!....way to go on that score!. I like those over the amel's any day!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
Yeowza!
That's the kind of price you put on an animal when you don't really want to sell it. Maybe he just wanted to show it off!
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Yeah, that was just OFF-THE-CHARTS kind of money to be honest. I would imagine he got his wish of NOT selling it either, at least for nothing close to what the label had on it anyway..LOL!
No denying that it was a killer looking animal though. I was really blown away by it!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
All things being relative, I just came from a show where they were still asking 2500 for ball pythons..... so 700 for a new morph doesn't sound quite that high as long as they originator isn't several staps ahead of the game an will flood the market before you get a chance to breed them. That largely happened with the hypo brooks.
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“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson
Well, I agree up to a point, but when you figure that was only in 2007, and in 2009 Mitch bought his nice PAIR for $250, something didn't add up with that huge figure that was on that particular deli cup. Sure new morphs are going to cost a pretty penny, but it all depends on the type of snake too, and $700 was just too steep in my opinion.
I am guessing he never sold it at that high a price either.
Heck, I saw a Ball morph on some dude's site that he was wanting I think it was around $18,000 for..LOL!.........uh,...no thanks!!!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
The Bells were still asking $700 each for them in 2008 when I first saw them at the Tinley Park IL NARBC. I was drooling over them myself but could no way justify spending that much on one. I haven't seen any available since then. Glad to see the price these days is more afforadable. I am defintely in the market for a pair.
My guess would be that the Bells really weren't interested in selling them at that price but the sticker shock on the balls just leaves everything else in the dust.
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“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson
those are simply unreal looking! Can't wait to see babies!
Awesome looking snakes. Those are by far the prettiest prairies I've ever seen.
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BigT
There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. The ignorant can be taught, stupidity is beyond our control.
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those are SMOKIN HOT!!! calligasters have always been a fav. of mine and the most underated of all lampros imho, congrats,,,,,, thomas davis
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???
my website www.barmollysplace.com
>>those are SMOKIN HOT!!! calligasters have always been a fav. of mine and the most underated of all lampros imho, congrats,,,,,, thomas davis
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Cool one Thomas.....
I bet a Hypo Striped prairie king would be killer looking......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com
WOW.. I have never seen hypo's before, they are really nice! Always liked P. kinks, i think they are very under-rated and seem to have fallen off the map (here in NY anyway).
good luck with them.. thanks for the pix!
~ Mike Russo
Those are just unreal!!!!
Makes me want to give Prairies another look......
thanks posting them!
byron.d
I didn't even how those existed - they are very nice.
Way better than albinos IMHO.
Tim
Those are very nice!
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