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I am a little confused with the Red Axanthic, the HET Red Axanthic, and Amir's Green Pastel...is Amir's Green Pastel the same as a Het Red Axanthic? Where can I find a GOOD description of a Het Red Axanthic? and of a Red Axanthic?

I thought that the Het Red Axanthix was a Black Back snake, but I have seen pictures of Het Reds with broken back stripes. Does a Red Axanthic ALWAYS have a broken pre-ocular stripe? Do they have a "reddish color"?

Also, what exactly is a Gargoyle? I have read that it is a "Super Green Pastel", and also that it is made with either a green pastel and a cinnamon or black pastel or with a het red and a cinnamon or a black pastel...
Sorry for all the questions...Thank you for the answers
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Here ya go.
Het Reds

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Bit confusing on the green pastel of Amir and the Gargoyle.
Can't really help. May be they look similar but haven't been cross ? do they ?

Here is some info from Corey Woods website :
http://www.coreywoods.com/het.shtml
http://www.coreywoods.com/red.shtml
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Thanks for the help...
I will post pics of a female that belongs to a friend and that I bred a couple of years ago year to a normal male. One of the babies (a male) has a black back. She kind of looks like a het red...reddish coloration....(her color definitively is not normal), lots of blushing, high white on her sides. I am breeding her this year to her black back son.
Will post pics tomorrow
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My understanding is this.
Green Pastel, Lace Black Back and Het Red are the same morph. I also believe that the Brown Back is the same morph too.

A gargoyle can be made from crossing any one of those with a Cinnamon or a Black Pastel.

This makes sense. Thanks!
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