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I just measured my friends Louisiana Milk at 51.5 inches!! Maybe not the record for any species, but very close!
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Scott MacLeod
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>>I just measured my friends Louisiana Milk at 51.5 inches!! Maybe not the record for any species, but very close!

Pics, we need pics!
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1.3.1 Honduran milksnakes (Chicchan, Chanir, Chakar, Hari, Saksak)
1.0 Thayeri kingsnake (Coatl)
0.0.1 Mexican black kingsnake (Mora)
2.4.4 corns (Cetto, Tolosa, Uce, TBA)
1,000,000.1,000,000 other critters

Dude, post a pic and I wil bet the farm it isn't a amuara.They max out at about 30 inches ( and thats a huge one) so thats way more than a stretchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I saw one posted for sale a while back as a amuara and was said to be over four foot but it was just another turbo,jurasic,monster painted whatever the heck flavor of the week mutt.
Anyway, seeing is believing so lets see this four foot Amaura....

L8r Shannon

I think he may have meant he has a friend in Louisiana who has 51.5" milk snake (ssp. unknown), LOL.

Peterson's lists the record amaura at 31", a whoping 20.5" less than the "friends".
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Joe

Way back in Jan. 1975 I sold an amaura to the San Diego Zoo that had been in my collection for a little over a year and it measured 33" plus a little. At that time we presumed that it was the record length. It was from Newton Co. Texas.
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Pete

That is very impressive Pete!

Thanks for adding that cool tid-bit!

Yeah, my belief is pretty much that no matter what happens to be an "officially" documented recorded length for any particular animal, there very realistically and logically has to be one bigger somewhere. The question really has to be....just how much bigger??

This only makes good logical sense to me.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Shannon,....I remember us both looking at a photo of that same one you are talking about, and it was DEFINITELY a crossed mongrel.

I remember we both had a good chuckle over it!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

How many of us emailed that guy telling him it wasnt a Amaura?? A 3' LA milk would be a huge one! Makes me long for the days on the forum when there were no hybrids and we had the "guess the locale" game...and more than 3 people played....

Yeah, I did. But the all-time best ad was the absolutely perfect text-book looking annulata being sold as a polyzona in a silly-ass video these clowns made up. The guy was narrating this stupid video with this ridiculous "Strong-Bad" cartoon voice of his..LOL!

I swear man, Shannon and I were freakin stunned in amazement at how ridiculous and how very very WRONG they were misrepresenting the snake in the video ad..HAHAHAA!

The dude sounded just like this as he was holding and talking about their alleged "polyzona" for sale....

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Shannon, true that NORMAL Amaura are around 30", but this locality is a small island in the bayou with no predators. Neither tape measures nor cameras are allowed on the island, which is a shame.
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Scott MacLeod
2.6 Snow Hondurans
1.1 Aberrant Snow Hondurans
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1.3 Aberrant Tangerine Hondurans
1.2 Aberrant Hypo Hondurans
0.1 Aberrant Hybino Honduran
1.3 Extreme Hypo VP
1.1 Tricolor Hypo VP
0.1 Hypo E Sinaloan
1.0 Het Hypo E & Amel Sinaloan
0.1 Amel het Hypo E and Splotched
1.1 Albino Striped Sinaloan
2.7 Striped Splotched Sinaloan
1.2 Poss Het T pos Sinaloan
1.2 T pos Sinaloan

The couple comments you made were pretty good one's!, I mean, what's fair is fair..LMAO!!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

I know, I am being pretty rediculous...and thats the point.

But, I will stop now.
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Scott MacLeod
2.6 Snow Hondurans
1.1 Aberrant Snow Hondurans
2.4 Aberrant Hondurans
1.3 Aberrant Tangerine Hondurans
1.2 Aberrant Hypo Hondurans
0.1 Aberrant Hybino Honduran
1.3 Extreme Hypo VP
1.1 Tricolor Hypo VP
0.1 Hypo E Sinaloan
1.0 Het Hypo E & Amel Sinaloan
0.1 Amel het Hypo E and Splotched
1.1 Albino Striped Sinaloan
2.7 Striped Splotched Sinaloan
1.2 Poss Het T pos Sinaloan
1.2 T pos Sinaloan

Hey, it's okay to be ridiculous once in a while,......other's do it all the time here..LMAO!!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

we DO get silly e'ry now 'n' then.......
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

What, I have to prove it?? After reading about Monster Island milks I thought all I had to do was make a bold statement and never back it up. Jeez, you guys are tough!!
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Scott MacLeod
2.6 Snow Hondurans
1.1 Aberrant Snow Hondurans
2.4 Aberrant Hondurans
1.3 Aberrant Tangerine Hondurans
1.2 Aberrant Hypo Hondurans
0.1 Aberrant Hybino Honduran
1.3 Extreme Hypo VP
1.1 Tricolor Hypo VP
0.1 Hypo E Sinaloan
1.0 Het Hypo E & Amel Sinaloan
0.1 Amel het Hypo E and Splotched
1.1 Albino Striped Sinaloan
2.7 Striped Splotched Sinaloan
1.2 Poss Het T pos Sinaloan
1.2 T pos Sinaloan

LOL, Scott, I have no doubt it is 51.5 inches long but I just can't believe it is a L.A. milk and that big.Even saying it was a solid 40 inches I wouldn't believe it.I think the biggest I ever saw ( and believe me I have seen hundreds) was about 30-32 inches.

But who knows?????

L8r Shannon

>>What, I have to prove it?? After reading about Monster Island milks I thought all I had to do was make a bold statement and never back it up. Jeez, you guys are tough!!

LOL!!
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1.2 Peruvian rainbow boas (Amaru, Asiru, Kulipsa)
2.0 Brazilian rainbow boas (Arco, Olho)
1.3.1 Honduran milksnakes (Chicchan, Chanir, Chakar, Hari, Saksak)
1.0 Thayeri kingsnake (Coatl)
0.0.1 Mexican black kingsnake (Mora)
2.4.4 corns (Cetto, Tolosa, Uce, TBA)
1,000,000.1,000,000 other critters

Never mind the measuring tape, I think we all want at least a pic to ID the snake to ssp.. You compared it to mine, hey I have pics and documentation right? It would be a real feather in your cap to be able to prove you can ID a snake.....for all we know it could be a kitten! ROFLMAO!!

Wright and Wright claimed the 54" specimen but cant cite literature or a specimen. The first edition of the Peterson's field guide Dr. Conant lists 47.5" as max size. Jeff Keidel caught a 52" one on MONSTER Island on July 16,1969 and it resides in Harvard's Museum for Comparative Zoology at Harvard. Dr. James "Skip" Lazell put it there and he quotes in his book "Frankly, I have measured so many in excess of 4' that I cannot doubt some really big fellow will turn up one day."
Now thats 3 cats with PHDs, I will again challenge any and all comers to either prove a bigger one or disprove this one. And for you children, no apologies, just CA$H!! BAM! SHUTUPAYUFACES.

Williams in his SYSTEMATICS and NATURAL HISTORY OF THE AMERICAN MILKSNAKE cites the biggest specimen of 1140mm(like 44"but that length was to the vent only. Make sure you spend as much time kissing my butt as you did lighting it on fire!