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I have 2.3 adult Burms that I would like to breed this season. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. First let me explain I have 5 snakes and 3 cages. Due to size and sex ration my animals are housed in 2 pairs and 1 female singly. Their cages are walk in enclosures built into a travel trailor so adding cages is not an option. Will my snakes still breed if housed together? What type of temp cycling do you recommend? Is it necessary to stop feeding? Will a female lay with another snake in her cage? Thank you for any advice you might share. I know my conditions are not optimal but I want to do the best I can with what I have to work with.

First of all,. I don't think anyone should be producing more normal phase burmese. They are virtually valueless and as a result are abandoned at a MUCH greater rate. You will be doing this species a disservice by making more of them. Sorry if this seems rude or harsh. That is not my intention. I just think it's in everyone's best interest (you, the snakes, the herp world) if you breed something less common.

>>I have 2.3 adult Burms that I would like to breed this season. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. First let me explain I have 5 snakes and 3 cages. Due to size and sex ration my animals are housed in 2 pairs and 1 female singly. Their cages are walk in enclosures built into a travel trailor so adding cages is not an option. Will my snakes still breed if housed together? What type of temp cycling do you recommend? Is it necessary to stop feeding? Will a female lay with another snake in her cage? Thank you for any advice you might share. I know my conditions are not optimal but I want to do the best I can with what I have to work with.
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Rude isn't a problem but that was ignorant. There is no need to attack someone for asking for help. I happen to love working with Burmese Pythons and who said I was going to produce normals. Even if I were there are some of us less fortunate that happen to have to start where we can. The injustice is taking animals out of the wild not producing them in captivity. Burmese Pythons happen to sell quite well where we are and if I am able to provide informed adults with wonderful giant snakes than so be it. I will use them as a stepping stone to bigger and better things. YOU HAVE ALL DONE IT so noone has the right to judge. Normals are produced every year by the biggest name breeders in the business. When you breed het to het your produce some normals because you can't prove the genetics of the normal looking offspring in the clutch! I enjoy every Burm I own and take great care of them. As a keeper it is my obligation to allow all of the animals in my collection to fulfill their God given desire to reproduce. Sorry, for the rambling and don't worry I won't be back here. I have wasted enough time on this board. To those of you who don't feel like the gentleman that responded to my post you really shouldn't allow ignorance to run rampid. If you can't be constructive to someone that sincerely asks for a little help then just don't reply at all. Thanks alot!

And there is nothing "ignorant" about stating a FACT. Sure, I did breed normal burmese before. You got me there. But that was in the 80's before there was any form of a burmese overpopulation problem. The last year I reproduced normal burms was 1989 when they still sold for 150 to 300 each and were still somewhat scarce.

FURTHERMORE,.. I don't do any het breeding beyond granite het albino to albino and this does not produce ANY normals. Because I am adamantly against contributing to that existing problem.

And let me tell you something about import practices. It will be done regardless of how many ADDITIONAL burmese are churned out in captivity. So you are certainly not helping anything by producing a few more score of them. Only hurting.

>>Rude isn't a problem but that was ignorant. There is no need to attack someone for asking for help. I happen to love working with Burmese Pythons and who said I was going to produce normals. Even if I were there are some of us less fortunate that happen to have to start where we can. The injustice is taking animals out of the wild not producing them in captivity. Burmese Pythons happen to sell quite well where we are and if I am able to provide informed adults with wonderful giant snakes than so be it. I will use them as a stepping stone to bigger and better things. YOU HAVE ALL DONE IT so noone has the right to judge. Normals are produced every year by the biggest name breeders in the business. When you breed het to het your produce some normals because you can't prove the genetics of the normal looking offspring in the clutch! I enjoy every Burm I own and take great care of them. As a keeper it is my obligation to allow all of the animals in my collection to fulfill their God given desire to reproduce. Sorry, for the rambling and don't worry I won't be back here. I have wasted enough time on this board. To those of you who don't feel like the gentleman that responded to my post you really shouldn't allow ignorance to run rampid. If you can't be constructive to someone that sincerely asks for a little help then just don't reply at all. Thanks alot!
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First of all if you admit in your post "know my conditions are not optimal" maybe you should get them optimal before attempting to breed. If you can't add more cages perhaps you need to find a new home for some of your snakes or move some into another building? Maybe sell one male, give each female her own cage and house the other male somewhere else until he is needed for mating?

Second, there really is no shortage of Burmese pythons in the pet trade and many wind up in the hands of uncommited owners, unless you are breeding very rare morphs or already have a buyer lined up for the babies you may not want to breed at all or at least not all 3 females the same year. Keep in mind that normal burms fetch very low prices and common mutations like albino and green are pretty low too relatively speaking, especially if you sell the clutch to a wholesaler or broker for resale.

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