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New Black Pines (pine)

ee Nov 05, 2010 12:54 PM

Just got some sweet black pines from Joe Bernardo. Had a slight issue which he more than resolved. I now have 2.1 healthy blacks from him. I will get pics up soon.
Question any info on pied black pines?

Replies (7)

Bigtattoo Nov 05, 2010 04:02 PM

Congrats on your new arrivals. Joe is a great guy and very knowledgeable with nothing but quality snakes. Knowing Joe if you had even the slightest issue he more than made up for it. Can't wait to see some pics of your new BP's.

Can't help much on pied black pines though.
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BigT
There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. The ignorant can be taught, stupidity is beyond our control.
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EE Nov 06, 2010 09:29 AM

Here u go. Pied???

EE Nov 06, 2010 09:30 AM

Another pic

tbrophy Nov 06, 2010 10:03 AM

That small patch of white on the chin is pretty typical of black pines I have seen. Nice animal regardless.

EE Nov 06, 2010 10:16 AM

I wasn't sure. She is great regardless. I am very impressed with her, in my book Joe is the man!

Bigtattoo Nov 06, 2010 12:37 PM

Yea I would consider that a normal black pine with the white in the throat like that. Nice dark black babies though. Joe doesn't mess with inferior quality animals.
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BigT
There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. The ignorant can be taught, stupidity is beyond our control.
1.2 P. m. melanoleucus B/W N. J. Northern Pines
1.2 P. d. deppei Mexican Pines
2.2 P. l. lineaticollis Linis or Lined Pines
1.2 P. m. lodingi Black Pines
1.1 Drymarchon melenurus Blacktail Cribo
1.2 M. s. cheynei Jungle Carpet
2.6 L. p. pyromelana Arizona Mt. Kings
1.1 L. g. californiae B/W Cali kings
0.0.3 M. f. flagellum Eastern Coachwhips
1.2 G. m. bottegoi Western Plated lizards

tortlemon Nov 06, 2010 03:24 PM

I have seen white/off white on the chin, but that is quite a patch of PURE white on the throat, as far as I can tell. I have never seen that. That may be a pied.
I would hold on to it and start a breeding program. Check with Mike Bodner and see what he thinks; he knows much about pied Black Pines.
Russ P.

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