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DOI Secretary Salazar Awards Bad Science

USARK Nov 11, 2010 08:10 PM

DOI Secretary Salazar Awards Bad Science at USGS

Obama Secretary Displays Appalling Lack of Leadership; Gives Awards for Scientifically Circumspect Agency Report

In an apparent effort to avert attention from his Department’s dismal public image and failure to bring change, Secretary of the Interior’s Ken Salazar has just given the US Geological Survey (USGS) and their collaborators an award for the work done regarding constrictor snakes. The Giant Constrictor Risk Assessment Partnership, comprised of the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS), the National Park Service (NPS), and USGS, was given the Department of the Interior’s (DOI) highest award presented by the Secretary – The Partners in Conservation Award.

The ongoing concerted effort to create science in order to support policy preference is just another symptom of intellectual dishonesty and unchecked hubris within DOI. This so-called “work” that has been awarded by the Secretary is controversial and riddled with inaccuracies that many of the world’s leading scientists in the field of reptiles, including other federal government agencies, have been critical of from day one.

The action by the Secretary only leads to more questions and motives by DOI and its Agencies behind such a move. A move that has taken place in the middle of an ongoing public challenge and review being carried out by DOI under its obligation to comply with the federal Information Quality Act. Is the Secretary’s action here merely another example of a failure to bring change and he himself has now been bitten by the ongoing system of dishonesty within DOI’s scientific staff? Or is this another case of where policy has trumped science? It does lead one to question who is leading whom within DOI.

Upon review of DOI documents, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), it has come to light that at the center of this controversy are Gordon Rodda and Robert Reed of USGS. In coordination with Mr. Art Roybal of the FWS, they worked to create reports that would support an Injurious Wildlife listing under the Lacey Act for Boa, Python and Eunectes. Roybal dictated to Rodda & Reed the specific criteria he would need in order for FWS to achieve the Injurious listing under federal statute. Roybal directed the work of Rodda & Reed to the point they became concerned about the appearance of impropriety. Nevertheless, Rodda & Reed produced two documents for Roybal’s Injurious listing pursuit. One was a Climate Match, Rodda & Reed 2008, and one was a Risk Assessment, Rodda & Reed 2009. The basis for both reports is a climate data set that was so severely mischaracterized, it demonstrated incompetence and possibly intentional deception on behalf of the report’s authors, Barker & Barker 2010. It is not surprising that the report’s authors would not release the data set until compelled to under USARK’s FOIA request.

Thailand’s Natural History Museum’s Michael Cota stated in his public comment to FWS specific to the Rodda & Reed climate data set, “With a 60% error rate for just one country (Thailand), how many imaginary datasets were used for these reports?” Soon after the release of the Climate Match report, it was challenged by a Niche Study, Pyron et al 2008, contradicting the supposition of Rodda & Reed that pythons would be spreading across the southern third of the United States. The Niche Study predicted that pythons would be limited to the southern tip of Florida and possibly the southern tip of Texas. The reality is that the pythons have struggled to survive even in south Florida. They exist no where else.

In response to the release of the Risk Assessment a myriad of top academics from institutions such as the National Geographic Society, Arizona State University and the University of Florida (among others) called the integrity of the report into question. In a letter sent in early 2010 to the Senate Environmental & Public Works Committee these scientists stated, “this report is not a bona-fide “scientific” paper that has gone through external peer review”. Further, these experts expound that, “We are further concerned by the pervasive bias throughout this report. There is an obvious effort to emphasize the size, fecundity and dangers posed by each species; no chance is missed to speculate on negative scenarios. The report appears designed to promote the tenuous concept that invasive giant snakes are a national threat. However, throughout the report there is a preponderance of grammatical qualifiers that serve to weaken many, if not most, statements that are made”. The final damning statement concludes, “this document is not suitable as the basis for legislative or regulatory policies, as its content is not based on best science practices”.

In 2010 there were three independent cold weather studies that stand in stark contradiction to the underlying climate study supporting the two USGS reports. There are actually four papers to convincingly describe how pythons exposed to critically low temperatures die. Barker 2008 related how pythons left heated refugia to crawl into snow and die and concluded that pythons and boas do not have the instincts and inclination to seek shelter from low temperatures. Seven of nine pythons in the US Department of Agriculture study of Avery et al 2010 left heated refugia to die in cold temperatures in central Florida. Nine of ten radio-tagged pythons in the study of Mazzotti et al. 2010 died in the Everglades; the tenth animal had to be rescued or it likely would have died, as well. 100% of the pythons in the study of Dorcas et al. 2010 conducted at the Savannah River Ecological Lab in Aiken, South Carolina died despite living in a large enclosure with a human-enriched habitat and numerous refugia. The bottom line is, between the three studies, 26 of 29 pythons studied succumbed to the cold. The three survivors were kept alive artificially and there is no reason to believe they would have survived if left exposed to the cold.

USARK has filed a formal Challenge of the USGS Risk Assessment, Rodda & Reed 2009, under the Information Quality Act in the form of a 36 page, 16 point Request for Correction. The official government response to it was written by Gordon Rodda, the USGS report author, and summarily dismissed as “no corrections necessary”. USARK has subsequently filed an 86 page appeal in an effort to hold the federal government accountable to its own rules and standards. USARK has clearly stated that the USGS failure to comply with its own policies and principles as well as the minimum statutory standard for the quality of information used in the Report constitutes a failure to comply with the most fundamental requirements of the Administrative Procedures Act (APA).

In a memo dated September 29, 2010, Secretary Salazar cautioned his Agencies in regards to the integrity of science used to make policy. However, recently the Department’s own Inspector General brought into focus a new case of scientific tampering, this time specific to the moratorium on oil and gas development in the Gulf of Mexico. When does change come to DOI? Only when it makes national headlines? After the public and our environment are harmed?

In the case of the constrictor work, the USGS, the FWS, the NPS, and now with the awarded complacency for business as usual by the Secretary, USARK questions the ability of the Department’s political leadership to effect change. Therefore, having no confidence in the Secretary, we call upon the Department’s Inspector General to review our concerns and report to the public on its findings. Through this independent review, we hope that ultimately it leads to an end of pandering to powerful special interests, perpetuating bias, and maybe even a purge of misguided employees that have been serving their own interests. Who knows, maybe it will even prompt the Secretary to ask more questions in the future when his Agencies push their own employees for his public commendation.

www.usark.org/uploads/Rodda%20Reed%20Climate%20Pythons%202008.pdf
www.usark.org/uploads/USGS%20Risk%20Assessment%202009.pdf
www.usark.org/uploads/Barkers_DataSetCritique-002.pdf
www.usark.org/uploads/Pyron%20et%20al%202008%20-%20ecolog%20niche%20modeling%20contradicts%20python%20expansion%20claims.pdf
www.usark.org/uploads/ComeOutOfCold_BCHS.pdf
www.usark.org/uploads/PythonColdTempfulltext.pdf
www.usark.org/uploads/Cold%20pythons%20%282%29.pdf
www.usark.org/uploads/Dorcas%20et%20al%202010%20-%20Can%20pythons%20inhabit%20temperate%20regions.pdf
www.usark.org/uploads/Cold%20pythons%20%282%29.pdf
www.usark.org/uploads/USARK%20IQA%20Appeal.pdf

Questions:
Andrew Wyatt
president@usark.org

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Replies (18)

emysbreeder Nov 11, 2010 09:46 PM

CHANGE you can "believe in" VM

Calparsoni Nov 12, 2010 06:00 AM

I'll take my guns money and reptiles, you keep the change.

emysbreeder Nov 13, 2010 12:50 PM

Their going to want all three before its over! Did you ever think it would come to this? What a brave President we have. There is nothing American about this bunch. Lets here from Scientest across the land, you going to call them on it? VM

jscrick Nov 14, 2010 02:44 AM

I do agree somewhat. I'm very disappointed in the way Mr. Obama is so timid towards the left wing of his party, the way lets them run roughshod over him. I thought he had more character/backbone than that.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

jscrick Nov 12, 2010 09:03 AM

jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

jscrick Nov 12, 2010 04:52 AM

This doesn't surprise me. They've probably all surpassed their level of incompetence by many evolutions.
I've worked for organizations that resolved issues by promoting the incompetent. This is much the same. You can put as much lipstick on a pig as you like...
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

OHI Nov 12, 2010 01:45 PM

Shouldn't we respond with a massive letter and phone call campaign to voice our disgust of this award with a carbon copy going to Obama and media outlets?

Welkerii

chris_mcmartin Nov 12, 2010 07:12 PM

The Giant Constrictor Risk Assessment Partnership

The team is called Giant C.R.A.P?
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I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

mpollard Nov 12, 2010 07:27 PM

Great catch! That's just too funny, and quite fitting!
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Ravenspirit Nov 12, 2010 10:33 PM

Well, at least they aren't trying to cover that up!

po Nov 12, 2010 11:31 PM

np
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hanging out under heat lights burns up my brain cells!!

Calparsoni Nov 13, 2010 08:20 AM

He's a conservative libertarian talk show host and he's always going off on government waste. Something this is a prime example of.
He would have a field day with the giant crap thing, and it would most likely spread like wild fire from his talk show to others. He is good friends with sean hannity.
I am not so web savvy so this would be a better job for someone who is. Perhaps some of the USARK people would be good at getting this to him where he would actually see it.

OHI Nov 13, 2010 01:45 PM

We don't need to feed the right or left wing loons. We need to take this to level headed, moderate, regular folks. We have the common sense evidence to show the science is bad.

Welkerii

Calparsoni Nov 13, 2010 02:07 PM

Actually what you need to do is get some publicity out there off from our small fringe groups and on to the main stage.
Aside from the assault on private property rights that this whole thing is, there is a serious waste of tax payer money going into this whole mess that could be better used elsewhere or quite arguably not used at all since our government is running on borrowed money as it is.
Getting the attention of this problem to a talk show host who would LOVE to pick on government waste, particularly a program whose acronym spells out to giant c.r.a.p. is an excellent way to get this problem to a much broader audience.

emysbreeder Nov 13, 2010 04:09 PM

They have all ready run over the "pleae stop betting me up, and be my friend" type people. They need to be called out by the Scientist that most likely voted for this bunch of premadonna's. Or will they just look away, get a fat grant check, pretend they had nothing to do with it, become one of them. They will not fail unless there is desent from within. Scientist across the United States "ITS UP TO YOU" to right this wrong. Its reached the top tear, we dont matter anymore. VM

jscrick Nov 14, 2010 03:01 AM

I agree. The only way to win this issue is to mainstream it to Mr. and Mrs. Taxpayer as idiotic out of control Government waste! You do realize that China owns us now.

The Public has got to be made to understand, like snakes or not, that we are on the front line fighting for them. If they don't wake up and smell the coffee, their options and choices will be next.

Not to mention the seriously misguided waste of taxpayer dollars by Government run a muck. All these scientists are Government workers, by the way, either directly, or through universities and institutions of higher learning. You don't think for a moment that they're not slightly biased as to which way the wind blows...how their bread is buttered, do you? Do you think they're going to bite the hand that feeds them? Don't be naive.

jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

Jaykis Nov 14, 2010 12:56 PM

This is how it works. A bit of corruption, some egos, probably another grant to make the house payments...and voila! It should come as no shock to anyone. Salizar has an agenda and no one is shouting about the Emporer's New Clothes. He's in a different administration, but doing the same old crap.

Aaron Nov 21, 2010 01:09 AM

Good idea. If guys like Hannity could learn enough about herps to know what a "giant" load of "C.R.A.P." this whole constrictor thing is they could really use it as a prime example of government waste and deception. Part of me actually hopes they don't because it could also be used to generally undermine the credibility of the whole environmental movement, good and bad. Salazar and the USGS are really playing with fire and it could backfire on them. I'd hate to see all environmentalists painted with the same brush but these guys(Salazar, Rhodda, etc.) have chosen to lie and misrepresnt to get what they want and something should be done about it.
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