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Just noticed that my female glades has some black on her tongue. Jeff

I am glad to see you posted that pic. One of my female glades has a tongue exactly like that only I can not capture it on film to save my life. The other female has a solid red tongue??!!

She's still kinda small with an attitude!All I have to do is get her out,aim the camera at her face and snap lots of pics and I'm bound to get a tongue pic! Lol! Jeff

LOL!,...me too Jeff!. There is such a delay in the response time of my camera between pressing the button and it actually TAKING the photo that it's virtually impossible to time it correctly!..LOL!. I just kept taking pics and anticipating a bit of time after his last tongue flick, and eventually I got a couple. But it sure took a while.

Yeah, the tongue color will surely vary between specimens, but yours and Allens are about as nice as they come in my opinion, regardless of there being some black, or not. I would venture to guess any given clutch can have different colorations from genuine orange/red parents with red tongues as well.

Seeing so much variation of all types within clutches of all different kinds of snakes over the years, it only makes sense to me really that this would be the case with the tongues too.

A good example would be my two 100% locality Yellow Ratsnakes. I sure wish I thought of documenting the tongues on more specimens over the years, but I do know that this male Yellow had a bit of red on his tongue, although most of it was black. There is NO WAY on earth that it could have ANY Everglades influence in his lineage watsover being that it was captured 9.5 miles from the actual Atlantic Ocean just inland of Melbourne, Florida smack in the middle of central Florida on the extreme east coast. This is exactly 30 miles south of where they launch the Space Shuttle in Cape Canaveral.

There is no Everglades, Gray, Black, or any other influence there from anything else whatsoever. These are 100% as pure Yellow rat as they can possibly come from anywhere else in the entire country.

~Doug

I captured this female below just 10.5 miles southeast of where the above male was captured. I wish I would have documented her tongue before I released her though. Note the less vividly colored iris. It is a much paler tannish/pink compared to the very orange/red iris of the male from the same general area too. Again!....variation..LOL!

~Doug

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>>LOL!,...me too Jeff!. There is such a delay in the response time of my camera between pressing the button and it actually TAKING the photo that it's virtually impossible to time it correctly!..LOL!. I just kept taking pics and anticipating a bit of time after his last tongue flick, and eventually I got a couple. But it sure took a while.
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>>Yeah, the tongue color will surely vary between specimens, but yours and Allens are about as nice as they come in my opinion, regardless of there being some black, or not. I would venture to guess any given clutch can have different colorations from genuine orange/red parents with red tongues as well.
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>> Seeing so much variation of all types within clutches of all different kinds of snakes over the years, it only makes sense to me really that this would be the case with the tongues too.
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>> A good example would be my two 100% locality Yellow Ratsnakes. I sure wish I thought of documenting the tongues on more specimens over the years, but I do know that this male Yellow had a bit of red on his tongue, although most of it was black. There is NO WAY on earth that it could have ANY Everglades influence in his lineage watsover being that it was captured 9.5 miles from the actual Atlantic Ocean just inland of Melbourne, Florida smack in the middle of central Florida on the extreme east coast. This is exactly 30 miles south of where they launch the Space Shuttle in Cape Canaveral.
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>> There is no Everglades, Gray, Black, or any other influence there from anything else whatsoever. These are 100% as pure Yellow rat as they can possibly come from anywhere else in the entire country.
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>> I captured this female below just 10.5 miles southeast of where the above male was captured. I wish I would have documented her tongue before I released her though. Note the less vividly colored iris. It is a much paler tannish/pink compared to the very orange/red iris of the male from the same general area too. Again!....variation..LOL!
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hey Doug, you ever fish Stick Marsh/Pond 13?
Caught my biggest large mouth, to date, there.
It was 9.75...still haven't broken the 10 lb mark but it's hard to do living up here in TN.
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I have never fished there personally yet, but that is a great place for catching some nice bass for sure. Sounds like you caught a real nice one there bro!

The biggest bass I have ever caught was a pretty thin one that was exactly 24 inches long, and weighed 10.5 pounds. I got that one in Ft. Pierce, Florida.

I have caught LOTS of big saltwater fish of different types over the years too.

Hows this for a killer snook!??.......it was 44 and 3/4 inch MONSTER!, and weighed 33 pounds! I caught several that were about this big, but some snapped me off right at the pilings before I could lip gaff them up onto the wooden dock. These were all caught back in the early-mid 90's.

~Doug

a nice tarpon....

big cuda!....

a killer 43 inch snook!...

a 32 inch snook!...

A shark I caught off the Ft. Lauderdale "strip"....also in the early-mid 90's....

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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The last snook with me in the blue T-shirt was 40 inches!, not 32 inches..LOL!

D'OH!!

and another glades pic to help keep things on track with ratsnakes..LOL!

~Doug

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Forgive the intrusion, Jimmy and Doug,
and forgive the thread hijack, Jeff,
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"hey Doug, you ever fish Stick Marsh/Pond 13?
Caught my biggest large mouth, to date, there.
It was 9.75...still haven't broken the 10 lb mark but it's hard to do living up here in TN."
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The Stick Marsh/Farm Pond 13 is great. Been fishing it since mid 90s when we lived in Orlando. The joke between my son and I is that if you want to catch a trophy size Bass, leave the camera at home!
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Regards, Bill McGighan