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Herpdigest is slanted to the elitist "don't keep" mentality, but a very good source of information on those that oppose what we do. As they say, "...keep your enemies closer." I do not personally care for the term "enemies", but adversaries or opposition will do.
jsc

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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

HerpDigest seems to be working against us with with the promotion of this book, Why would we want to support it?
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QUOTE Herpdigest is slanted to the elitist "don't keep" mentality, but a very good source of information on those that oppose what we do. As they say, "...keep your enemies closer." I do not personally care for the term "enemies", but adversaries or opposition will do. END QUOTE

For the reason I stated in my original post. It is a great source of information on those that wish to suppress our interests and with what their various propaganda mills are ginning up.

Alan isn't such a bad guy. Just a little misguided with that elitist mentality. I still keep hoping he'll come around to see reason.

I'm all for inclusion and cooperation among all stakeholders. Vilification and derision won't solve a thing. Diversity in the modes and methods in our conservation portfolio will. Those arrogant persons that think only they have the answers to these dynamic and complex issues are on a fool's mission.

jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

First I am not anti- keeping of herps. I have herps. Almost all my life. The keeping of herps opened the world of nature and environmental activism to me. I kept looking for the reason why I couldn't find herps in the wild when I went out, doing what is now called "Field Herping" which I believe to mean hunting for herps in the wild is OK, just as long as you leave them there. Take pictures. Not trophies. Do not disturb their environment (such as ripping apart their dens to find everyone and leaving it that way.) And as I learned more and saw the bigger picture. For example the entire issue to solar engergy, the fight over the installations of solar farms in the desert, their impact,on desert tortoises and other desert herps.
But I can't publish only such "big picture" articles in HD. I have to concentrate on herps, news good or bad. Would you consider my publication of the abstracts on herps and roads papers anti-herp keeping?
And the positive articles I find on herp keeping are honestly banal, and just repetitive of Reptile Magazine.
The few times I have tried to join in the discussions on these or any Kingsnake forums. I get attacked. spammed, its not worth it. Vilified as you rightly describe it.

But when say ARAV makes a policy statement against the laws against large boas, I print it. When the papers, that are peer reviewed came out saying the the spread of large pythons and boas throughout the US won't happen. I print those abstracts.

Yes I report busts of smugglers, news about new laws that are anti-herp keeping. But I rarely comment on it past here is the address to send your comments.

Letters? Almost all pro-herp & anti keeping ones I get r rants.

I believe in responsible herp keeping. Which I practice. I could go on, such as why elitist if it means more knowledgeable such as you are is not bad. But my space here is limited, as my time, and I have to go produce another issue of HD.

But thanks for what I believe is a sort of a compliment.
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Wow, Alan. Almost missed this one. I always appreciate people speaking their mind. It's all about avoiding misunderstandings and finding common ground. Thanks,
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer