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I bred my blonde male trans pecos to a supposed 100% het blonde female. Of the 8 good eggs seven have hatched so far and not one of them is blonde.

Would other breeders think that this would indicate that the female was not actually a het? I know the odds are far below 1% that this would happen.

And also what is the appropriate response with which to contact the breeder? I like to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume a mix up and not a lie, at least to start with.

How can a breeder rectify my years of raising and care for the "het" as well as the financial aspects of the failed clutch? Others may have had this experience and I would like to know what solutions they came up with to rectify similar problems.

I just do not want my proposed solution to be too demanding or to seem outrageous but my clutch is worth far less and the snake was sold to me under false pretenses. The years of husbandry, cost of the snake, and loss of income on the clutch must add up to account for something. That is of course assuming the breeder is not a scummy guy and is willing to make things right.

Any thoughts or opinions are appreciated. And I will not reveal the breeder to anyone, so do not ask. This forum is not for trash talking of slandering anyone and I would like to respect that.

ain't taking sides here...BUT.....it could be extremely bad luck!!!......statistically....this X should result in 50% blondes.....but it is possible to get none!!!......so you need more data.....cause i believe each egg is a separate 50/50 chance of being a blonde.....its like flipping a coin 8x and getting all heads.....it CAN happen....try it...so how well do you know the breeder???

I agree Bob. Could be just a bad case of luck of the draw. However, it does appear to be fishy IMO. Still, stranger things have happened!!! I would certainly contact the breeder and make sure you didnt get a "possible" het. from a het to het breeding instead of an actual het.

The odds that not one of them was blonde in 8 independent 50/50 trials is less than 0.3%. That is some awfully bad luck if she is in fact a het. But I guess stranger things have happened. I couldn't tell you were these strange things happened other than once in my snake room, but I guess it is just part of getting hets.

I contacted the breeder and he assured me it was a het. But I do not even feel confident reselling the adult female as a het. I feel like I proved her out to be a normal.

Offer to trade the dealer for a proven het.

AHHHH.....LESSON TO BE LEARNED...."PROVEN" HET......THAT'S THE TICKET....... & .3% is still a chance.....

>>The odds that not one of them was blonde in 8 independent 50/50 trials is less than 0.3%. That is some awfully bad luck if she is in fact a het. But I guess stranger things have happened. I couldn't tell you were these strange things happened other than once in my snake room, but I guess it is just part of getting hets.
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>>I contacted the breeder and he assured me it was a het. But I do not even feel confident reselling the adult female as a het. I feel like I proved her out to be a normal.

..you can do the math a thousand times and the eggs are still going to be what they are.
I've bred this one pair of snakes together for three seasons..I hatched the female and know for a fact this is the only male she has been with. Out of 53 eggs in three seasons ONE was anery. This obviously means the parents are het anery.
If you breed two het anerys together the odds say... what?.. approximately 25% anery. so, doing the math I should have had around 13 anerys....the numbers are just numbers...the eggs can't add.
To assume after one breeding that the snake is not het is jumping the gun. I would fatten her up and get her ready for next season and breed her again. At this time you really don't have enough proof to demand a refund or to question the breeder's honesty.
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stay away from VEGAS.....

>>stay away from VEGAS.....

funny....you're right though..I'd loose my shirt in Vegas....and more
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Corn snakes and rat snakes...No one can have just one.
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So did the 8th egg hatch?
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