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Ive seen more and more of these posted for sale and I had a few questions about them. I dont think Ive ever seen an adult photo of one. If anyone has an adult please post pics. The other question is Ive heard there are two lines of these. Whats the history of these lines? Are the two lines compatible? Sorry if this has been covered in the past.

Bone

Bill Brant(of Gourmet Rodent) produced the first "mosaics" in 2003 from some captive hatched individuals that originated from the sugar cane fields just south of Lake Okeechobee. Lindsay Pike also produced some as well shortly afterwards. They are indeed genuine Florida kings.

regards, ~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

I thought Sean Belanger was connected to the original mosaics?

Sean Belanger and Carl May were hunting the canefields together one morning and caught two gravid female kings. Both snakes were actually captured by Carl. Sean kept one, and gave the other to Phil Peak.

Sean hatched the eggs, and out came 2 mosaics amongst several normals. Sean then sold the project to Lindsay Pike. All animals involved were female, so it was going to be a few years before the trait could be proven recessive.

In 2006, before Lindsay could produce any from his line, animals from the Gourmet Rodent line were being offered online by Amazon Reptiles. The two lines have since been crossed, and seem to be compatible.

You know, although I thoroughly enjoy the frequent, lively debates that take place on this forum, I must say that I LOVE the fact that someone can ask a question regarding the "origin" of any given animal, and the contributors in this forum can actually pinpoint the animal's origin to the exact "one sunny day, when two guys were out collecting". I LOVE THAT!

Simply Impressive. I'd say this forum is more of a "Think tank" of some really great minds...my compliments to all of you.

Btw: what are some of the day jobs of everyone here? (ie. Fulltime reptile breeders and herpers, students, electicians, teachers, business owners, white-collar, blue-collar, what?). Just curious.

-micah

Well, I have been a professional carpenter for many years, and began the trade back in 1976. But I have no longer been doing it since about 2001 or so. I think all those years of doing it is what blew my lower back out!..LOL! I also built close to around 500 swimming pools during the earlier years as well.

cheers!, ~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Very cool. I kind of figured there would probably be a lot of diversity in here.

14 years till I get to hang it up, then its smoooooth sailing, in theory, anyway! Hahaha!

Thanks for the reply, Doug!

Cheers to you too!

Geez, 14 years....that seems like an eternity. LOL!

social work/disaster relief. Due to recent changes in policy I can't really give too many details though. They banned talking about it online in any fashion that would let people ID our employer.

But we're supposed to strike up conversations about it when oppurtune IRL. Schizo.
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We wouldn't have 6 and a half billion people if you had to be beautiful to get laid.
6.6 African House snakes
3.2 reticulated pythons
.1 corn snake
4.2 Florida Kings
1.2 speckled kings
1.2 ball pythons
0.0.1 Argentine boa

Yeah, that was the other aberrant line. Sean hatched the aberrants from the wild-caught parents found by Carl May as Nick(foxturtle) mentioned. Carl collected the two gravid females in March of 2004, and let Phil Peaks choose which one of the two females he wanted. Two of the six offspring one of the females produced were very aberrant.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Here's a sub-adult male.

Whoooo! What a beauty!

Tony
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You can never have only one snake!

I picked up a pair this year, so they are still pretty small.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

Great info everyone. THANKS!

Bone