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about tongue damage from thread below

53kw Dec 11, 2010 03:29 PM

I've collected snakes from the wild which were missing their tongues. W/c snakes missing tongues were pretty emaciated, but in captivity, were able to feed when offered killed prey or when the prey was trapped in the cage with no where to run, in those cases where the prey was an amphibian, fish or worm. Rodent prey was always offered as dead food.

I have a Sonoran whipsnake which appears not to have a tongue. She feeds OK on fuzzies, although her intervals between feeding are longer than what I'd expect from a racer. Perhaps she needs to be extra hungry to just open her mouth to a food item if she has no tongue to help stimulate feeding. I think snakes do have at least some sense of smell, and probable some sensation in their lips. The tongueless racer eats while hiding under her bark, so I still don't know exactly how she initiates feeding but she does it.

There may be hope for a snake which has damaged or lost its tongue. Snakes are capable of learning, and might figure out how to feed even if impaired. Such a captive may be a special-needs animal for the rest of its life, and if you plan to keep it, you could face a bit of extra work with it. My tongueless whipsnake is no problem, as she accepts food placed under her bark, but I doubt she'll be as robust a captive as a snake with its tongue intact.

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a153fish Dec 11, 2010 04:53 PM

Thanks for the info1 If the snake had been eating for a while I would be more hopeful of it surviving. The problem is this litle guy had been a problem feeder and had only taken one scented pinky. Before that I had to tease feed it from birth. So it's doubtful though not impossible that it will eat on it's own. I may have to tease feed it again in hopes that it will someday eat alone?
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pyromaniac Dec 12, 2010 10:48 AM

Please excuse sort of off topic (corn not king) but are hatchling corn snakes generally problem feeders? With alternas and pyros, to name a couple of kings, they like lizard scent to get started, but I thought corn snakes mostly ate rodents anyway and would not be hard to get started eating mouse pinks. I remember seeing a box of baby corns at a reptile show for $10 each, billed as non-feeders. What if you tried feeding the injured baby an anole or some other very small lizard?
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Bob/Chris
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire

a153fish Dec 12, 2010 12:24 PM

>>Please excuse sort of off topic (corn not king) but are hatchling corn snakes generally problem feeders? With alternas and pyros, to name a couple of kings, they like lizard scent to get started, but I thought corn snakes mostly ate rodents anyway and would not be hard to get started eating mouse pinks. I remember seeing a box of baby corns at a reptile show for $10 each, billed as non-feeders. What if you tried feeding the injured baby an anole or some other very small lizard?
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>>Bob/Chris
>>Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire

Hey Bob, Corns can vary quite a bit. Some locality corns are famous for being lizard eaters. But on average and there are exceptions to every rule, on average I get 3 or 4 super stubborn feeders in a clutch. Some from long lines of captive breeding have 100% clutches that take pinks right away. My Okeetees rarely give me any problems. I just read just yesterday that bill Cloud said in his cornsnake manual that the Bloodred Corns initially gave large clutches of small eggs aith a high percentage of problem feeders. However as the bloodline was out crossed the problem feeders were being reduced. So it is as I have always said, a geneticly inherited trait also! There are other factors too. Some people get impatient and so in an attempt to get the animal feeding before it wants to, they try many methods including force feeding which then just compounds the problem by stressing the snake out. Many consider Corns to be beginners snakes but I love them and the paint jobs are outrageous! There's not much market for many Corns anymore unless you have high end ones. I just saw an add by BHB for scaleless Corns which were over a grand each maybe two grand, I can't remember.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------As for the little guy with the tongue problem, He was eating lizard scented pinks. His tongue is gone by the way. I'm not sure if it retracted or if it fell off, cause I haven't found it, but I suspect the latter.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
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