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Let's Talk Condas. CRAZY LITTER HATCHED!

Jon R Dec 15, 2010 09:16 PM

So, the anacondas are hands down the best mutation I have ever worked with. They produce some of the most wicked patterned snakes ever to hit the market!! Anyway, I just produced a pretty cool litter that has continued to make me scratch my head. I would like to here everyone's opinion on each of the 3 conda siblings from the clutch. The clutch was incubated at a constant 82 deg. and the first pips started on day 53.

I decided to go for a late litter this year with this yellow female.

I bred her to this '08 Conda.

He produces some nice looking condas, but these two animals from the yellow girls sister are about as nice as he had previously produced.

This latest clutch produced some very nice looking normals, but nothing aberrant, or different to make me wonder about a possible temperature fluctuation during incubation.

So, the first conda to hatch out about made me fall over when I saw it. I would say she is about 95% patternless. There are some ever so faint hints of where the pattern should have been, but the only real pattern are the few small random placed marks and the lateral stripe near the belly.

The next conda to hatch was this very reduced animal. He looks like he really wanted to follow in his sisters footsteps, but just couldn't quite shake off all the dorsal pattern.

And finally,,, this thing hatched out. I don't even know what to think of this one. Is it a conda, or what?? It has a cool burnt orange background color with cool copper colored dorsal blotches. The lateral blotches are very dark and bold and the lateral striping near the belly is dashed in some spots and completely missing in others, giving it a whitewall look. It also has a completely patternless tail.

And this is the part that I really thought was different about this one. The belly is just a reduced, uneven black stripe. I thought the solid, even black belly with nice white borders were one of the only typical markers of the anaconda trait. What is it??

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Ultimate Hognose

Replies (9)

JTColubrids Dec 15, 2010 09:29 PM

Jon,

First of all, CONGRATS!!! Those are insane!!!

The first one is WAY sweeter than a super in my opinion! I produced a male that was pretty much patternless but had some faint blushings near his tail, but the random dark spots on her just make her incredible!!! She is my favorite one for sure!

The second one is really sweet too! I love the "classic" condas that you pictured first, but if all condas came out looking more like this one and the female before him, that would be AWESOME!.... but maybe we would not appreciate the "oddballs" as much if they were more common. Anyways, killer animal!

This last one has the same belly as the sibbling to my almost patternless conda that I produced last year. It is more reduced and goes all the way down the animal's belly, as mine only looked like that for the first third of his belly, but they are very similar looking. I think with such a reduced pattern on top and on its sides, i would say it's a really cool and unique conda.

Just my opinions, but either way I'm sure that you are glad you decided to go for the late clutch! It's good seeing hatchling pics at this time of year!!! Can you post more of that female? She is insanely cool!!!

Jeremy Thompson
JTColubrids, Inc.

Jon R Dec 16, 2010 05:27 PM

Thanks for the feedback and info about your clutch. Can you show us some updated pics of your hypo condo and it's siblings??
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Ultimate Hognose

josephschmidt Dec 15, 2010 10:16 PM

Fantastic looking I love them all!!
Congrats bro!!

pikiemikie Dec 16, 2010 11:19 AM

Awesome........Mike Bodner

GregBennett Dec 16, 2010 02:27 PM

Congrats on producing some awesome animals.

That last one is the best I've ever seen. I love that whacked out pattern.

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Greg Bennett - Western Hognose Morphs
520.Hognose (520.464.6673) - www.bennettreptiles.com

Jon R Dec 16, 2010 05:31 PM

So what's your opinion on the 3'rd one?
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Ultimate Hognose

motorhead Dec 16, 2010 09:25 PM

Those are smoking cool Jon, check out the patternless tail on the third one.

Just crazy what you can produce from the anacondas.

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Brent Bumgardner
bwbumgardner@aol.com
703.431.1776
Superconda Website

Gregg_M_Madden Dec 17, 2010 07:09 PM

Stunning condas Jon... Never disappointed when I open one of your picture posts...
Thanks for the eye candy...

nearhoofm Dec 18, 2010 05:01 PM

Awesome conda's Jon. I guess now you have 3 more holdbacks lol

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