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So my husband bought me a '06 feamle coral albino Kahl Strain for christmas and he has intentions on breeding her to our red tail, and I really want her on display in the living room, but he insists that she stays back in the snake room for breeding, he says that they probaly wont breed with all the camotion, and visibility of the aquarium being in the living room. someone help me prove him wrong! haha

I have to agree with your hubby . I personally don't think that Boas should be in high traffic areas of the house - or aquariums, for that matter . Sorry.
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Snake room janitor

>>I have to agree with your hubby . I personally don't think that Boas should be in high traffic areas of the house - or aquariums, for that matter . Sorry.
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Boas By Klevitz

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Aquariums are not suitable enclosures to keep boas in and your hubster is right......sorry
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Regards,
Buddy

I keep my boas in a snake room but I'd venture to say that when they feel like breeding, it wouldn't matter if they were in the middle of your local freeway. They get in the zone and stay there until its over. I wish my wife would let me keep a display animal or two(of any type) in the living area of my house but its a no go. I don't push it because I have a really nice snake room and I have no leg to stand on when it comes to arguing about snakes. You have to pick your battles right? Good luck with your husband and your snakes. Merry Christmas. Mike Panichi
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I have to agree with your hubby . I personally don't think that Boas should be in high traffic areas of the house - or aquariums, if you are going to breed her. However with her being a new boa she should be in quarantine for 6 to 12 months and not bred this year. So if you do have a good cage and not a aquarium for her I don't see why she could not be in your living room for the quarantine time.

Take care
Tom
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I'm sure you're finding that nobody agrees with each other. I'm on your side.

There is no chance that keeping the snake in a "high traffic area" will interfere with breeding. When the animals are ready to go, they'll go. They don't care about traffic (and I'm sure you guys will reduce the traffic when they start breeding). I've had snakes breed in the bag minutes after capture. They don't care. You should have no problems keeping and breeding your boa in the living room.

I'll agree that males will court in almost anyplace , but I doubt that they'd actually breed in a high traffic place , much less a snake bag. I go into my snake room , and peak in on my pairings , and if I make too much movement, the females almost always pull away from the males - especially if theirs penetration. I find them to be quite secretive breeders.
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Snake room janitor

Really. During copulation, I have lifted the females tail for a photo op on numerous occasions and they barely even noticed I was there. I have never seen it with the boas but I have seen plenty of colubrids breed in snake bags. As a matter of fact, we(us colubrid guys) used to take picky breeders for a car ride in a bag together and as god as my witness, it worked more often than not. Thats colubrids of course. In any event, there are tons of stories out there of boas breeding in classrooms. I cant think of a busier place can you? I have also personally witnessed more than once, boas breeding at a snake show. Not courting but actually breeding. I think if given a choice, quieter is better. However in my opinion, having a single pair of boas in a display set up in a living room wouldn't stop them from breeding. I'd bet my bottom dollar on it. Interesting topic though. Take care. Mike Panichi
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I used to have a pair of hog island boas.

I kept the female in a neodesha 4 foot cage between the dining
room and living room in a 1 bedroom apartment. She bred 4 times
from there. The male was kept in a cage in the living room.

She was the tamest boa I've ever seen. She used to want to come
out of her cage whenever anyone come over. I'd open the door &
she'd come right out & check out whoever came over.

I used to put her on a small table between the TV and sofa &
she'd hang out there. She'd move from the sofa where I'd be to
the table & back & never take off. Sometimes I'd fall asleep &
she'd still be right there when I woke up.

That's Excellent Tc, I hope you kept that girl for her entire life !

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz

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I would have to agree, especially if they were kept in the family room all of the time and this was their normal environment. they would get use to it. I've been to Ecuador once in my life and took a little excursion into the upper amazon basin (along the rio napo if my memory is correct) - the jungle is one NOISY place.

I don't have a large house. the boa room is across the hall from my bedroom and only about 20 feet from the family room. I keep the TV or stereo on almost all of the time. I keep the boa room door left open a crack all of the time - the dogs go in with me when I clean cages or change waterbowls. I know a few people who have produced litters and keep their boas in their bedroom.

Thank you all for the insite and recomendations. BUT I have decided to keep her in the snake room, because I am getting my husband a retic for christmas, so we will use him as a display!

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I just read Mikes note. Good points, you just left out zoos. I can't seem to go the San Diego zoo with out seeing some snake or other breeding in the exhibit cages.

but we do seem to be talking mostly about coluberids and other more "advanced" snakes. Still, I don't see any reticence on the part of breeding boas either.

Sounds like the lady has made her decision, but for the record....

yes, I've had several gopher snakes and kingsnakes breed in snake bags, and on single occasions a pr of rattlesnakes and a pr of gartersnakes (and I know many other people who've had the same thing happen). I've never had boas do it, although the 10 or so boas I've captured were all juveniles. Like other people on this thread, at home, my boas (of several species) never seem to pay any attention to minor disturbances. I'm not saying you should shake the cage, but walking around (and even moving them around for photos) never seems to bother them at all.

I couldn't agree with you more. As a side note, a friend of mine had a pair of copperheads who wouldn't breed unless they were in a bag on a car ride. They produced a healthy litter every year. And as you said, they are always good to go in the zoos as well. Take care. Mike Panichi
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Maybe then I need to move my Boas into the living room for breeding, lol . It's good to hear others experiences . , In my experience , I have not found them to be so eager to breed.
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Snake room janitor

Depends on the particular snakes and how they've been socialized, how well cycled, etc. If they "pull apart" when you enter the room then they were only courting and not "locked" anyway. Often shaking them up a bit puts a spark in them, so to speak...it's not that uncommon to see them courting in small cages at reptile shows as hundreds of people walk by all day gawking at them in close proximity. That said, I do usually try to leave them alone in breeding season as much as is feasibly possible, because I tend to think the females are more likely to feel secure and this might help in ovulation (to make safe baby environment/eliminate stress). But, pet shops and zoos routinely produce babies, don't they?