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Mojave het pied

zippy00_99 Dec 18, 2010 05:51 PM

I am looking for any and ALL willing to post pics of mojave het pieds. I have a 50% possible het pied female and NO pied/het pied males ready to breed. I do have a super mojave male ready to breed, and my mojo female is already breeding to my albino which is why I am not shooting for more lucies. I saw Ralph Davis' 2010 birthing records and clutch 139 has a mojave het pied and it looks awesome. I figured if they ALL look like that, It would be a good way for me to prove out my poss het female without an actual pied/het pied male. Please post pics of mojave het pieds!!!

Replies (22)

zippy00_99 Dec 19, 2010 07:26 PM

I can't believe NO ONE has mojave het pieds! This is wierd, or I have the wrong forum. I am talking about mojave het pied BALL PYTHONS ya know.

goombasreptiles Dec 19, 2010 08:25 PM

Hahaha you'll find not alot of people like to share, especially if you are onto something. If anybody is working with mojo pieds, or at least about to, try asking Brian Gundy, he is FGS on here. He is an awesome guy and always super helpful. He has an amazing line of mojos and he always says pieds are his favorite so he may have something in the works.

BASICALLYBOAS Dec 19, 2010 10:34 PM

Hey guys! We hatched a handful of Mojave Het Pieds and a few Pied Mojaves recently, but we are Boa Folk and never thought about posting them. LOL I can tell you all the Mojave Het Pieds we have are pretty unique looking at least in our opinion, but again, like I said we are Boa folk!
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zippy00_99 Dec 20, 2010 12:13 PM

Absolutely, please post them.

aer Dec 23, 2010 09:50 AM

so you did get Champs White Gold.
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zippy00_99 Dec 24, 2010 09:39 AM

No I haven't received any photos of the hets, but I did search out the white gold pics. They are really cool, however I am still seeking more pics of mojo het pieds.

Thanks.

zippy00_99 Dec 20, 2010 12:10 PM

I spoke to Brian, and he doesn't have any on the ground yet, so... But thank you anyways.

BuzzardBall Dec 20, 2010 07:31 AM

I guess I don't get the intrigue w/the visual of a het! A Mojo w/a marker maybe? Maybe a suble look? Who really cares, as long as you have the genetics that gets you you're ultimate goal... The Mojo Pied!

wohlerswi Dec 20, 2010 10:34 AM

Kevin is starting to see the het pied gene visually express itself stronger in triple and quad gene combo morphs. Don't start counting het. pieds out to be visual color/pattern changers just yet. Kevin says the het pied is starting to almost work in as its own visual at that point. Pretty sweet. Im sure this is why the original poster was asking.
Will

zippy00_99 Dec 20, 2010 12:18 PM

Exactly. I just want to see if my 50% possible is indeed het or not, and if the mojave can unlock this for me if would save me a year of buying pied blood and raising him up. Thank you.

zippy00_99 Dec 20, 2010 12:16 PM

Well Ralph's clutch #139 he calls a mojave het pied. I don't have any other pied blood to try to prove my 50%'er out, so if there is an obvious difference in the mojave when the het pied is present, then I would want to put my super mojo to her and see if she is het pied or not. Thats all im askin' for..lol.

wohlerswi Dec 20, 2010 10:30 AM

That combo was created quite a few years back. You might have trouble finding info on it as a mojave pied because the combo was called white gold. Do a search for white gold ball pythons and that should give you a great starting point! One thing I have to say about the white gold is being in the BEL complex you would think it would be another white snake. It isn't though and I think it is one of the most stunning hetBEL pied combos to date. They retain a lot of pattern, and the pattern that's retained is solid gold lined with black. Pretty damn sweet, and I have a couple older mojos het pied that I don't have any pics of. When I get around to it though I will pm you some pics.
good luck and hope this helps
Will Wohlers

zippy00_99 Dec 20, 2010 12:30 PM

I found the white gold stuff..(very nice), but no pics of the mojos HET for pied, which is what I would really like to see, but PLEASE post the pics, I am looking forward to seeing them.

jluman Dec 20, 2010 02:14 PM

Here's a mojave het pied being bred by a pewter het pied. She doesn't really look any different than my other mojaves. Maybe you could guess which offspring were het pied, but I wouldn't count on it 100%. I would just keep back the nicest ones and hope for the best. Good luck!


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zippy00_99 Dec 20, 2010 03:01 PM

Thank you for posting your pic. Sadly, not what I was hoping for, but at least now I know.

BuzzardBall Dec 20, 2010 03:43 PM

Thanks Jeff! Just what I thought! Does she have the pied belly marker? That being said, I've seen hets w/out the marker, so you really can't go by that either!

jluman Dec 20, 2010 04:27 PM

No, she doesn't have the pied markers like a normal appearing het would. I think the lower sides of the mojave are too light and uniform so they blend in with the white belly too much to allow any lines to show up where you might look for them. Same thing goes for the pewter.

I do have some other co-doms (pastel, cinnamon) that do have pied markers though. I posted some pics of them on KS a while back. Here's a link: forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch.php?id=1719749,1720416&key=2009
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goombasreptiles Dec 20, 2010 06:48 PM

It was probably on here but I can't remember exactly but I recently saw a cinnamon het pied that had a very unique tail pattern. It was almost a reduced pattern with alot of blushing. Not sure if that is a typical het trait on a morph but it was kinda neat to think it would show up as that. I'll have to dig around and see if I can find it again.

goombasreptiles Dec 20, 2010 06:51 PM

that didnt take long lol

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BuzzardBall Dec 21, 2010 08:22 AM

Neat, but you really can't go by that! Lateral striping is trait of the Cinny!

aer Dec 23, 2010 09:47 AM

havent seen het Pied markers show up on the mojave as a typical het. Pied trait.

With the fading on the mojave,the high white sides,and the white bellies it's just not there. We are seeing alot of ringers and striping on the bodies and some really abnormal fading...but these are from animals carring more than one additional trait so we are not able to really differentiate which genetic trait might be responcible for what appears to be subtle changes in the visual look of the hets. I will try to get a few pics up later today/this evening.
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zippy00_99 Dec 24, 2010 09:39 AM

GREAT! I can't wait! Thank you.

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